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Building my motor, need advice on valvetrain.

Das Gespenst

Go Kart Champion
Location
Glen Ellyn
So as most of you know I'm getting the last of my parts together to build my motor this winter in preparation for the big turbo setup. I currently have a set of Supertech intake and exhaust valves but need to pick up a spring set still (could have swore I bought those already). There's not a whole lot of reviews on valvetrains for our motors and I wanted to see if anyone here can chime in. What little reviews I can find on the supertech stuff is mixed. Obviously I'm trying to keep cost low and the supertech valvetrain does that very well. Should I just get the ST springs and go ahead and build my head with that or get IE/Ferrera springs?

Going deeper, is there any reason to not run the ST valves? I just want to make sure I build this thing right the first time. Any input or advice is appreciated.
 

Das Gespenst

Go Kart Champion
Location
Glen Ellyn
I went Supertech valves springs etc for EFR7163


What are you building/power goals?
Full motor, JE FSR 83MM 9.5:1 pistons, IE TUSCAN rods, ARP main and head studs, Calico main and Rod bearings. GT 2876R .60 turbo. Shooting for around 400whp.

Still trying to decide if I'm doing the 1.8T oil pump conversion or just cutting and deleting Balance shafts.

Like I said, I already have the ST valves, was just unsure on what springs to run. Going IE seals and guides.
 

Joshohol

Go Kart Champion
Location
Troy NY
Leave the oil pump alone. I feel bad for recommending to jose to get the 1.8t conversion. I was looking at supertech springs myself earlier this year. My stock stuff is holding up well but I dont beat the shit outta ths car and my motors only got like 6k miles. I run calico bearings for everything.

Did you order those ARP studs yet?

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Mostic

Go Kart Champion
Location
Egypt
Ride
VW Golf
Go for the IE springs, seals, and OEM oil pump with balance shaft delete with fluidampr or 1.8 conversion if you won't go for the fluidampr.
I had the 1.8 conversation and I moved to the OEM oil pump with deleted balance shaft.

I have the ferrea valvetrain kit but if you wanna keep cost low and you already have the ST valves then go for IE head kit.

I have the INA Cam Follower (Hydraulic Lifter), and Ferrea lifter shims, you can check the links below;

https://www.uspmotorsports.com/Volkswagen--Golf-GTI-Rabbit--MK5--06-2009--2.0T-FSI/Engine/Internals/Cylinder-Head/Cam-Follower-Hydraulic-Lifter.html

https://www.uspmotorsports.com/Volkswagen--Golf-GTI-Rabbit--MK5--06-2009--2.0T-FSI/Engine/Internals/Cylinder-Head/Engine/Internals/Cylinder-Head/Audi-Lifter-Shims.html
 
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xSabretoothx

Fast w/ training wheels
Location
Raleigh, NC
Ride
2008 GTI
I went with the ferrea valve retainers, spring and spring seats. With the cost comparsion of OEM to upgraded springs, its kinda of a no brainer to get the upgraded ones.
 

Das Gespenst

Go Kart Champion
Location
Glen Ellyn
I went with the ferrea valve retainers, spring and spring seats. With the cost comparsion of OEM to upgraded springs, its kinda of a no brainer to get the upgraded ones.
Oh I'm not going OEM, my question is if people think the Supertech springs are ok/worth it or if I should just pay the extra for either the IE or Ferrea springs.
 

GIACUser

Master Wallet Mechanic
Location
SoCal
Oh I'm not going OEM, my question is if people think the Supertech springs are ok/worth it or if I should just pay the extra for either the IE or Ferrea springs.
Here is a link to a comment from a professional engine builder (PagParts) on the comparision of Supertech vs Ferrea. LINK
 

jay745

track sl00t
Location
Chicago
Ride
2 vw's
+1 for definitely needing an oil cooler after this. I still need to install mine, had it almost a year :(
 

eurocars

5/17/15 - Never forget
Location
Indianapolis
Ride
2006 GTI
Just so you know, iAbed and INA with the green diamond are not the same company. There is an INA that is an aftermarket part supplier:

http://www.ina.de/content.ina.de/en/aftermarket/automotiveaftermarket/automotive_aftermarket.jsp
 

Fred930

Scirocco MK II Track Car
Location
Wisconsin
Eventually I'm going to install an accusump but that's eventually. I already plan on the DSG cooler to help keep it healthy.
Personally, I would never build a track car without an Accusump and good sized external engine oil cooler (you mentioned planning on a DSG cooler - I have no experience if that is needed too, but expect it's a good idea).

Neither item is especially expensive, but there is added cost for AN fittings, hose, and some method to tap into the oil supply (my oil filter adapter plate has worked OK for years). I just feel better knowing that Accusump is helping prevent oil starvation during high G moments (and really nice to have some oil pressure before cranking a cold motor). And it's a rare track car that has TOO MUCH oil cooling.

Only down sides -
1) You need to start the car a bit earlier before your first session to get oil temp into a good operating range, especially on cool mornings. Don't have a radiator fan, so it's a delicate balancing act to warm the oil without overheating the water.

2) My Accusump is located in the passenger seat area (easy access to the manual control valve). So harder to find a good mounting spot if you're planning on keeping the right seat. They can be electrically controlled, but I don't like that method.
 
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