First off thank you too rhawbsays up in the bay area for holding on to these for a trade we did last weekend. I have a set of charlestons that i have been curious about getting powercoated sun gold and came into these 18inch huffs so i used them as a tester. Not really set on theses yet but i think they came out pretty good. Eventually theses will go onto my wifes white jetta. I know a few might hate but its all good....