Epic_Sandwich
I Drive a Sedan
- Location
- Northern Colorado
So, background on my car; 06 GLI (obviously FSI), 6spd, mods in sig. Currently 102,700 miles. Car has been running pretty flawlessly, no CELs since 92k mile and no major repairs. Oil changes every 5k miles at the dealer.
So I'm getting off the highway and come to a stop and immediately notice idle is rough around 650-750rpm, surging, and engine vac is real low. I have to feather the gas to keep it from stalling. I contuine to drive the remaning 5 miles home and the CEL finally comes on.
Pull the code, P0011 Camshaft A over advanced. I immediately know this is probably bad. Researching online provides lots of info, mostly pointing to the N205 valve is bad is poor oil pressure/low oil. Oil level is fine. No oil pressure light on the dash.
I decide this is something I'd rather not tackle myself with limited cam timing experience (if it's that bad) so I take it to my local dealer. Now, I would say I have a pretty good relationship with my dealer. Bought it from them CPO, bought my wife's TDI there, taken both in for normal services in the past and they do good work and ignore my mods. I realize this isn't the normal experience most get with the VW dealer.
Anyways, dealer calls this morning and says the cam side timing chain has jumped timing and has excessive slack. They quote replacing the chain, tensioner, N205 valve, valve cover gasket, misc other gaskets for $1716 out the door including labor.
Questions; from my research it's unlikely timing jumps and becomes over advanced, correct? It's usually retarded. Also the car drove fine past 1500rpm and if it was indeed out of timing that doesn't sound like it would be possible, right?
I asked the dealer multiple times if there was piston to valve contact and damage as a result of the timing jump and they said no. I guess I feel a little skeptical that all of these parts need to be replaced or if it did indeed jump timing. Has anyone else experienced this? And is the $1716 quote good or should I start calling some indy shops? Side note- I live in a smallish town but close driving distance to Denver, as a result there aren't many reputable indy shops in my area and I'd be looking to have the car towed 50-60 miles to a good Denver based indy shop.
If you're still reading, wow, thanks.
Dave
So I'm getting off the highway and come to a stop and immediately notice idle is rough around 650-750rpm, surging, and engine vac is real low. I have to feather the gas to keep it from stalling. I contuine to drive the remaning 5 miles home and the CEL finally comes on.
Pull the code, P0011 Camshaft A over advanced. I immediately know this is probably bad. Researching online provides lots of info, mostly pointing to the N205 valve is bad is poor oil pressure/low oil. Oil level is fine. No oil pressure light on the dash.
I decide this is something I'd rather not tackle myself with limited cam timing experience (if it's that bad) so I take it to my local dealer. Now, I would say I have a pretty good relationship with my dealer. Bought it from them CPO, bought my wife's TDI there, taken both in for normal services in the past and they do good work and ignore my mods. I realize this isn't the normal experience most get with the VW dealer.
Anyways, dealer calls this morning and says the cam side timing chain has jumped timing and has excessive slack. They quote replacing the chain, tensioner, N205 valve, valve cover gasket, misc other gaskets for $1716 out the door including labor.
Questions; from my research it's unlikely timing jumps and becomes over advanced, correct? It's usually retarded. Also the car drove fine past 1500rpm and if it was indeed out of timing that doesn't sound like it would be possible, right?
I asked the dealer multiple times if there was piston to valve contact and damage as a result of the timing jump and they said no. I guess I feel a little skeptical that all of these parts need to be replaced or if it did indeed jump timing. Has anyone else experienced this? And is the $1716 quote good or should I start calling some indy shops? Side note- I live in a smallish town but close driving distance to Denver, as a result there aren't many reputable indy shops in my area and I'd be looking to have the car towed 50-60 miles to a good Denver based indy shop.
If you're still reading, wow, thanks.
Dave
