Remember chicken pox parties? My god. Barbaric.
This is a good argument to keep wearing quality masks indoors. I'm glad I already bought a big pack of N95s.
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This is a good argument to keep wearing quality masks indoors. I'm glad I already bought a big pack of N95s.
The delta variant is between 2 and 4 times more lethal and 4-5 times more likely to cause serious illness than the original strain.
Don't know what UK study you are quoting but my number is from the cdc document published by the Washington post from Canada and Singapore data.
Don't know what UK study you are quoting but my number is from the cdc document published by the Washington post from Canada and Singapore data.
Not only does the data show that the vaccine is 90%+ effective at avoiding infection it's over 99% effective at preventing hospitalization due to serious illness
Perhaps I'm looking at this whole "educate people about the vaccine" thing in the wrong way. Maybe I should be encouraging them in their anti-vaxxer ways because let's remember... an anti-vaxxer is a Big Lie'r is a Q-lover. Wouldn't miss em.
That's of known cases. The actually mortality rate is estimated at .7%.
Unreal1
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For that to be true that would mean Delta has 4-8% mortality rate in Canada but only .02 - .08% in UK. Which obviously isn't possible. Do you have a source for that claim? It seems you're interpreting something incorrectly.
.02 - .08 in the UK has already been sourced and agreed upon.
Agreed on by who?
Passports are now open!
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COVID-19 Vaccination Verification - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
Dear CA State Employees:
The combination of low vaccination rates in some communities and the increased transmissibility of the Delta variant of COVID-19 has resulted in increasing case rates. The vast majority of new cases involve unvaccinated individuals, with a 600% higher case rate among the unvaccinated compared with those who are vaccinated.
In response to this concerning increase in cases, CalHR is implementing COVID-19 testing of all unvaccinated state employees working on site as an additional health and safety standard to protect the state workforce and the public it serves, and to ensure that employees critical to the continuity of state operations will be able to perform their duties. Fully vaccinated individuals shall be allowed to elect to participate in COVID-19 testing. More detailed information regarding COVID-19 testing of state employees will be forthcoming as the CalHR and California Department of Public Health (CDPH) finalize this process.
Self-attestation of vaccine status will not be sufficient evidence of vaccination for exemption from testing. Therefore State departments have been instructed to implement procedures to collect and maintain evidence of vaccination from employees, effective immediately.
Any employee seeking to be exempt from COVID-19 testing must provide evidence of vaccination. Employees can access their Digital COVID-19 Vaccine Record to receive a link to a QR code and digital copy of their vaccine record at https://xxx.xx.gov. If an employee cannot access their digital vaccine record, they may provide a vaccine card or other medical record establishing full vaccination.
Vaccination verification is to be implemented immediately, and COVID-19 testing will be implemented soon. Until the testing is rolled out, employees will still be in the office with unvaccinated employees; however, all state employees should continue to wear a mask in the buildings.
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COVID-19 Vaccination Verification - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY
Dear CA State Employees:
The combination of low vaccination rates in some communities and the increased transmissibility of the Delta variant of COVID-19 has resulted in increasing case rates. The vast majority of new cases involve unvaccinated individuals, with a 600% higher case rate among the unvaccinated compared with those who are vaccinated.
In response to this concerning increase in cases, CalHR is implementing COVID-19 testing of all unvaccinated state employees working on site as an additional health and safety standard to protect the state workforce and the public it serves, and to ensure that employees critical to the continuity of state operations will be able to perform their duties. Fully vaccinated individuals shall be allowed to elect to participate in COVID-19 testing. More detailed information regarding COVID-19 testing of state employees will be forthcoming as the CalHR and California Department of Public Health (CDPH) finalize this process.
Self-attestation of vaccine status will not be sufficient evidence of vaccination for exemption from testing. Therefore State departments have been instructed to implement procedures to collect and maintain evidence of vaccination from employees, effective immediately.
Any employee seeking to be exempt from COVID-19 testing must provide evidence of vaccination. Employees can access their Digital COVID-19 Vaccine Record to receive a link to a QR code and digital copy of their vaccine record at https://xxx.xx.gov. If an employee cannot access their digital vaccine record, they may provide a vaccine card or other medical record establishing full vaccination.
Vaccination verification is to be implemented immediately, and COVID-19 testing will be implemented soon. Until the testing is rolled out, employees will still be in the office with unvaccinated employees; however, all state employees should continue to wear a mask in the buildings.
Unreal1
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cb1111
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Exerpts from articles below the link
https://gothamist.com/news/why-the-delta-variant-matters-if-youre-vaccinated-or-unvaccinated
Researchers say the real problem is that one-dose recipients offer a preview of what happens to people who live on the margins of solid immunity. If you got infected and recovered, banking on your natural defenses might no longer ward off the delta variant. A shot is needed.
“If you're unvaccinated, you will get infected, and you will have a higher probability of ending up in the hospital,” said Dr. Theodora Hatziioannou, a virologist at Rockefeller University in New York City. “The vaccinated people might get infected too, but they will deal with this a lot better.”
The unvaccinated—particularly younger adults and grade-school children—now appear to be at higher risk for cases and hospitalization than when the dangerous alpha variant (B.1.1.7) sprouted in the U.K. There, delta rose to become the dominant variant of coronavirus there in nine weeks. It now makes up 95% of British cases, primarily consisting of unvaccinated people under 50 years old.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...iant-is-so-contagious-a-new-study-sheds-light
Preliminary data shows that in some U.S. states, 99.5% of COVID-19 deaths in the past few months were among people who weren't vaccinated, said CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky at a White House press conference in early July.
And 97% of those currently hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated,
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...icacy-as-delta-variant-concerns-rise/2419162/
"These findings indicate that authorized mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are effective for preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection, regardless of symptom status, among working-age adults in real-world conditions," the U.S. agency wrote in the study. "COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all eligible persons."
Then there is this
How much more contagious? Well, scientists use a measure called R0 (pronounced R-naught) to measure the contagiousness of something. It’s essentially the answer to this question: “Without any immunity or any interventions, how many people does the average disease-infected person go on to infect?” The best estimate from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for R0 for Coronavirus Classic is 2.5: the average sick person with regular ol’ coronavirus, without immunity or intervention, infects about 2.5 people.
The estimated R0 for the Delta variant, though, is estimated to be somewhere between 5 and 8. That means, without immunity or intervention, the average sick person goes on to infect five to eight people.
That is a huge difference. Gigantic, thanks to exponential growth. Let’s put it this way: After 10 reproductive cycles of Coronavirus Classic at that R0 of 2.5 above, you get 9,537 infected people. After 10 reproductive cycles of the Delta variant — at, let’s be optimistic, an R0 of 5 — you get 9,765,625 infected people. Basically, 10,000 vs. 10 million. Exponential growth is crazy.
https://gothamist.com/news/why-the-delta-variant-matters-if-youre-vaccinated-or-unvaccinated
Researchers say the real problem is that one-dose recipients offer a preview of what happens to people who live on the margins of solid immunity. If you got infected and recovered, banking on your natural defenses might no longer ward off the delta variant. A shot is needed.
“If you're unvaccinated, you will get infected, and you will have a higher probability of ending up in the hospital,” said Dr. Theodora Hatziioannou, a virologist at Rockefeller University in New York City. “The vaccinated people might get infected too, but they will deal with this a lot better.”
The unvaccinated—particularly younger adults and grade-school children—now appear to be at higher risk for cases and hospitalization than when the dangerous alpha variant (B.1.1.7) sprouted in the U.K. There, delta rose to become the dominant variant of coronavirus there in nine weeks. It now makes up 95% of British cases, primarily consisting of unvaccinated people under 50 years old.
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...iant-is-so-contagious-a-new-study-sheds-light
Preliminary data shows that in some U.S. states, 99.5% of COVID-19 deaths in the past few months were among people who weren't vaccinated, said CDC director Dr. Rochelle Walensky at a White House press conference in early July.
And 97% of those currently hospitalized with COVID-19 are unvaccinated,
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/loca...icacy-as-delta-variant-concerns-rise/2419162/
"These findings indicate that authorized mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are effective for preventing SARS-CoV-2 infection, regardless of symptom status, among working-age adults in real-world conditions," the U.S. agency wrote in the study. "COVID-19 vaccination is recommended for all eligible persons."
Then there is this
How much more contagious? Well, scientists use a measure called R0 (pronounced R-naught) to measure the contagiousness of something. It’s essentially the answer to this question: “Without any immunity or any interventions, how many people does the average disease-infected person go on to infect?” The best estimate from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for R0 for Coronavirus Classic is 2.5: the average sick person with regular ol’ coronavirus, without immunity or intervention, infects about 2.5 people.
The estimated R0 for the Delta variant, though, is estimated to be somewhere between 5 and 8. That means, without immunity or intervention, the average sick person goes on to infect five to eight people.
That is a huge difference. Gigantic, thanks to exponential growth. Let’s put it this way: After 10 reproductive cycles of Coronavirus Classic at that R0 of 2.5 above, you get 9,537 infected people. After 10 reproductive cycles of the Delta variant — at, let’s be optimistic, an R0 of 5 — you get 9,765,625 infected people. Basically, 10,000 vs. 10 million. Exponential growth is crazy.
In this one hospital in Tampa, FL, 83% of their COVID hospitalizations are from unvaccinated individuals.
"Florida coronavirus cases jump 50% as surge continues" -- AP News
"Florida coronavirus cases jump 50% as surge continues" -- AP News
Great propaganda.
We already know natural immunity lasts longer (per NIH) and their plasma saves others.
These guys are just vaccine salesmen.
Unreal1
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It doesn't really matter if the vaccine was 100% effective. This has turned into something much bigger and far more important than the vaccine itself. The leftist mob are now pushing for legislation that would effectively allow the government to control our speech on the internet. Granting them full discretion over what it deems fit for our consumption. A power that will not go away once implemented, as we see clearly with the patriot act. A power that would eventually be used by the people they despise, or even Trump himself. But of course the SJW and fairy mob lacks the logic and foresight to realize that.
Outside of government, you have their bootlickers doing everything they can to silence and censor anyone who remotely goes against their desired narrative, even if said person is an avowed far-leftist as seen in the video above with Jimmy Dore.
Biden admin is also floating the idea of another lockdown to save people who don't want to be saved, or to save people already safe.
This is all about control and the leftists are pushing for and normalizing totalitarianism, whether they realize it or not.
Yet again, it's actions like this that make a Trump presidency, or worse, necessary.
Outside of government, you have their bootlickers doing everything they can to silence and censor anyone who remotely goes against their desired narrative, even if said person is an avowed far-leftist as seen in the video above with Jimmy Dore.
Biden admin is also floating the idea of another lockdown to save people who don't want to be saved, or to save people already safe.
This is all about control and the leftists are pushing for and normalizing totalitarianism, whether they realize it or not.
Yet again, it's actions like this that make a Trump presidency, or worse, necessary.
cb1111
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People still don't think that misinformation on a car website can cause issues? Since he's been here, Unreal changed from what appeared to a rational person into a raving whack job.
Yea I'm sure he was always a raving whack job... just wearing some watercolor paint.