The COVID19 SCAMdemic... California Nears $8 Gallon Gas - Biden Sends Zelenskyyy $61 Billion

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I'm just wondering why he cares about the Chinese lying at home all the while he's fapping to the incompetence in handling covid of our own authorities here.

Because he wants to make you wear a mask for his own safety.

 

[anotero]

We live in a country where party bias trumps personal values. If anyone really has values at all. I said it in my first post in this thread, Trump was the most liberal republican we've seen yet somehow has managed to generate cult-like support from people who consider their selves staunch conservatives. Trump, while in office, said verbatim he wants to take guns first and go through due process second. If Obama had said something that outlandish conservatives would have stormed more than just the capitol. Yet, with Trump, it doesn't even warrant push-back from these so-called conservatives. How can anyone consider their selves pro-2A while turning a blind eye to that?

Trump then began to back up his words by supporting red-flag laws and other anti-gun legislation. Pre-pandemic his spending was worse than even Obama's, yet the only republican with the backbone to speak out against this was Rand Paul. However, if you were to suggest that Paul would be a good candidate for president "conservatives" would look at you like you're crazy. They don't respect people who place country over party. You're supposed to support your party even when they're going against values at the heart of conservative ideology.

I consider Trump supporters Republican in culture only. They're all-in on the cultural aspects, but don't care about anything else. The proof of that is in their actions and inactions.

Paul is indeed an anomaly. I think voting is a spectacle and a joke, but even i would find a hard time justifying not casting my vote for him.

 

[anotero]

Because he wants to make you wear a mask for his own safety.

I'll be sure to pull the chin diaper down to my crotch before sneezing on him.

 

[VoodooDoll]

Why do you care about China's internal affairs so much? A friend is asking.

I mean, China is an adversary of the US, no? China is the reason we have COVID, no? The risk of China is one of the big links to losses of American manufacturing jobs, no? Why shouldn't we discuss China and what you consider their "internal affairs?" When China told us COVID did not spread person to person back in late 2019, was THAT also an internal affair, as well?

 

[uberdot]

We live in a country where party bias trumps personal values. If anyone really has values at all. I said it in my first post in this thread, Trump was the most liberal republican we've seen yet somehow has managed to generate cult-like support from people who consider their selves staunch conservatives. Trump, while in office, said verbatim he wants to take guns first and go through due process second. If Obama had said something that outlandish conservatives would have stormed more than just the capitol. Yet, with Trump, it doesn't even warrant push-back from these so-called conservatives. How can anyone consider their selves pro-2A while turning a blind eye to that?

Trump then began to back up his words by supporting red-flag laws and other anti-gun legislation. Pre-pandemic his spending was worse than even Obama's, yet the only republican with the backbone to speak out against this was Rand Paul. However, if you were to suggest that Paul would be a good candidate for president "conservatives" would look at you like you're crazy. They don't respect people who place country over party. You're supposed to support your party even when they're going against values at the heart of conservative ideology.

I consider Trump supporters Republican in culture only. They're all-in on the cultural aspects, but don't care about anything else. The proof of that is in their actions and inactions.

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[Unreal1]

Accepted as gospel on the right, the notion that conservatives are marginalized or “canceled” by social media companies has always had an odd ring, given that conservative pundits and politicians (like Jordan) are notably prolific and enjoy high levels of engagement on the major platforms. Last year, the NYU Stern Center for Business and Human Rights published a paper I wrote that observed the absence of any trustworthy studies finding that platforms were removing conservative content for ideological reasons.

https://thehill.com/opinion/technol...ed-against-conservatives-facts-say-otherwise/

Twitter was founded by a pro-free speech libertarian fwiw.

 

[anotero]

I mean, China is an adversary of the US, no? China is the reason we have COVID, no? The risk of China is one of the big links to losses of American manufacturing jobs, no? Why shouldn't we discuss China and what you consider their "internal affairs?" When China told us COVID did not spread person to person back in late 2019, was THAT also an internal affair, as well?

Lol. So our capitalists moving manufacturing to third world countries with cheap labor is China's fault?
Lol at shitting on China about covid conjectures in 2019. Yet here we are and our own elites keep shitting on our heads and spewing lies in 2022. Must be China's fault. Let me guess: bombing those asian barbarians into stone age will solve our problems?

 

[anotero]

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That cigar smoking guy looks chinese. I knew it! I fucking knew it...

 

[anotero]

And then they bitch about medical personnel shortages.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/health-and-medicine/article260613447.html

 

[uberdot]

https://thehill.com/opinion/technol...ed-against-conservatives-facts-say-otherwise/

Twitter was founded by a pro-free speech libertarian fwiw.

My dad and I aren’t red voters, he’s never cast a red vote ever; actually he’s a socialist and we both got kicked off Twitter for posting things considered to be right wing talking points.

Social media is overwhelmingly leftist and those viewpoints are tolerated even to calling and praising violence against conservatives or who/what is deemed as such.

 

[VoodooDoll]

True, but it was the beginning of the pandemic and they shut down the economy. I didn't like Menuchin talking about "liquidity" every day, being so willing to print more money. Not good. But at least we had a pre-pandemic record setting economy, low unemployment, low inflation, middle-income financial growth, energy independence, stock markey valuation, and were on track to close the deficit.

We have almost the polar opposite now. The only thing holding this economy together for now is the government printing money and strong corporate earnings. The consumer sector, the biggest piece of the economy, is not doing well, and is about to jump off a cliff.

Go ahead and keep drinking the Biden Kool-Aid. 69% of the country has had enough.

I really didn't give Trump as much credit as most Republicans or as much blame as most Democrats for the economy, overall. The same goes for Biden. The stock market is still, historically, doing quite well. I really do not blame him for high inflation. Inflation has some domestic components, but it is a global issue. Let me give you an example. Conservatives and Libertarians believe in no economic intervention. If that happened in 2008 when the Fed used the TARP program to save the economy, that was the right move. Many Cons and Libertarians were against TARP, but that is the type of thinking that leads to Depressions, not Recessions. Also, take for example the chip shortage that was partly due to American off-shoring permissiveness. What we've called the "global economy." That is not BIDEN's fault. It's the fault of so many past administrations and congresses thinking we could keep this JIT global supply chain humming along with no problems and never preparing for the likelihood that such a tight supply chain could have massive ramifications. What if China invades Taiwan and then nationalized their chip production factories, for ex? Then what?

There are a lot of factors that lead us to this point, and Biden could have done a better job in some areas, yes, but it's crazy to think that Trump or some other Republican would have made things better by cutting taxes (which is typically the Republican solution for everything).

 

[uberdot]

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[zrickety]

We live in a country where party bias trumps personal values.

I would say that is more the fake news rhetoric that we are led to believe, than how real people think.

 

[VoodooDoll]

Lol. So our capitalists moving manufacturing to third world countries with cheap labor is China's fault?
Lol at shitting on China about covid conjectures in 2019. Yet here we are and our own elites keep shitting on our heads and spewing lies in 2022. Must be China's fault. Let me guess: bombing those asian barbarians into stone age will solve our problems?

You're making up arguments I've never even come close to suggesting let alone stating. China has a lot of blame, yes. They steal US intellectual property, they use their military to hack into private corporation, and they then give it to their own national companies free of charge so that they can better compete with Western companies and dominate their field. China deserve a lot of blame, but so do past US administrations, both Democrat and Republican (more so Republican, but still both). We have been way too quick to allow just about everything to be off-shored without any national strategic planning. As an example, we should have our own N95 mask production capacity to be prepared for the next pandemic, but Republicans and Libertarians argue that the govt should stay out of private business. Such thinking leads to American companies off-shoring production to places like China where they can produce much more cheaply, but they can also refuse to allow mask exports outside the country during the next international pandemic. How about computer chips and the move to have them all produced overseas in places like Taiwan? What happens if China invades Taiwan and nationalized the computer chip manufacturers and then uses their control on chips as a weapon against other foreign countries? Then what? Republicans and Libertarians don't believe in planning for such events and investing in domestic manufacturing by supporting domestic manufacturing. They're stuck in the 18th and 19th centuries.

 

[zrickety]

You're making up arguments I've never even come close to suggesting let alone stating. China has a lot of blame, yes. They steal US intellectual property, they use their military to hack into private corporation, and they then give it to their own national companies free of charge so that they can better compete with Western companies and dominate their field. China deserve a lot of blame, but so do past US administrations, both Democrat and Republican (more so Republican, but still both). We have been way too quick to allow just about everything to be off-shored without any national strategic planning. As an example, we should have our own N95 mask production capacity to be prepared for the next pandemic, but Republicans and Libertarians argue that the govt should stay out of private business. Such thinking leads to American companies off-shoring production to places like China where they can produce much more cheaply, but they can also refuse to allow mask exports outside the country during the next international pandemic. How about computer chips and the move to have them all produced overseas in places like Taiwan? What happens if China invades Taiwan and nationalized the computer chip manufacturers and then uses their control on chips as a weapon against other foreign countries? Then what? Republicans and Libertarians don't believe in planning for such events and investing in domestic manufacturing by supporting domestic manufacturing. They're stuck in the 18th and 19th centuries.

This is your most sensible post. All admins, past and present, all the big corporations, sent everything to China to make more money. Quality be damned. Local jobs be damned. They shot themselves in the foot for golden parachutes, then wonder why the middle class hates them.
Supposedly, we are going to make chips here, we should. Japan too. All the superficial race diversity efforts should be channeled into manufacturing diversity. I go out of my way to find parts made in reputable countries. You remember the PPE China sent over? Medical gowns that evaporated when you tried to put them on. Ridiculous.