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Old 12-17-2014, 12:29 AM   #1
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For us late model MKV guys, finally a 2 stage ESP off option using the factory button.
Go to ABS Brakes coding, manually change byte 16 to 3C (3D, 38, 39 depending on hill assist/TPMS options).
http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87293
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True ESP OFF on 08.5-09 cars: http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190211

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Old 12-17-2014, 01:28 PM   #2
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Ive done this for about a month works fine. Compeltely disables ESP


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here's what you do to disable traction BUT keep ABS on 2009 gti's.

Go into the 03 ABS module, click on 07 Coding, then long coding helper, then bite 15 and drop down the menu and select RHD, save the changes

issues.
-ESP light is ALWAYS solid on
-ESP button is worthless now, can not turn on and off...its ALWAYS off
here's the thread
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Old 12-17-2014, 08:23 PM   #3
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That's a different mod. This is easily switched on and off with the factory button.
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I like that it looks rather mundane and sort of a commuter car but is really a wolf in sheeps clothing.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:37 PM   #4
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Interesting. Maybe i'm missing something, because if I told ESP for 3-seconds it starts blinking infinitely. Doesn't this mean it's off?
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:53 PM   #5
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No, it will turn off traction control but the stability program is still active without this mod. If you drive enthusiastically, autox, track, etc, you will feel it slow you down.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:55 PM   #6
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Ah! That makes sense, thanks for the clarification
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:03 PM   #7
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Wonder if it works for the newer beetles?
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:23 PM   #8
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Someone needs to try. If they are similar year or pump model it should work.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:43 PM   #9
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I know someone with a beetle thats been looking for something like this, i'll see if he's looked into it
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Old 12-19-2014, 11:12 AM   #10
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Any word from the beetle forums? I can't believe we didn't find out about this sooner.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:04 PM   #11
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The way I posted is the only was to fully disable. Holding the button on our MKV TSI doesn't work. Its still on.
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Old 12-19-2014, 12:26 PM   #12
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The way I posted is the only was to fully disable. Holding the button on our MKV TSI doesn't work. Its still on.
did you not read the golfmk6 link? the coding changes turn off ESP, which wasn' t possible before which on some cars gives it the two stage traction control like the 2012 mk6 cars.

It probably has that high limit third stage that some golf r drives have encountered, but people have done the coding and been able to do donuts in the snow where it wasn't possible previously. Disabling the steering angle sensor and/or changing to rhd probably won't encounter that high limit third stage i bet however...
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Old 12-19-2014, 01:57 PM   #13
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did you not read the golfmk6 link? the coding changes turn off ESP, which wasn' t possible before which on some cars gives it the two stage traction control like the 2012 mk6 cars.

It probably has that high limit third stage that some golf r drives have encountered, but people have done the coding and been able to do donuts in the snow where it wasn't possible previously. Disabling the steering angle sensor and/or changing to rhd probably won't encounter that high limit third stage i bet however...
I have its been posted here before with no luck. APR has a PDF for the Golf R how to do it etc... but still no true solution for our cars
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Old 12-19-2014, 02:21 PM   #14
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It's a real defeat. Try it and see. Golf R has awd, there's no comparison.
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I have its been posted here before with no luck. APR has a PDF for the Golf R how to do it etc... but still no true solution for our cars
The golf r and ROW coding for 2012 cars modifies different long coding bytes from the 08.5 to 2011 GTI/Golf R.

If you look at the link zrickety posted, and compare it with the 2012 and up ESP defeat coding changes, you'll see the difference.
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Old 12-19-2014, 04:06 PM   #16
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NOW I GET IT LOL

Going to try tonight
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Old 12-23-2014, 12:16 PM   #18
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What's the word? I always have the kids in the car so I haven't pushed it yet.
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Old 12-31-2014, 04:42 PM   #19
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:15 PM   #20
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You guys already have full ESP off button to my knowledge.
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Yup, 2006-2008.5 (yes 2008.5 TSI guys too) could already fully turn off traction control
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So, I attempted this with my friend and his VAG-com. Did not work for me....maybe there's something I'm missing. When we went to the ABS brake coding, byte 16 does not have a bit 3. It has only bit 0 and 2. Also, the value it had in byte 16 was 30, not 34 as in the post. It would not accept the 3C code and although nothing was actually changed on the coding, I now have lights illuminated on the dash.

The ABS light is solid on and the traction control blinks constantly. When I press the ESP-off button, it goes from a slow blink to a faster blink then a double blink. I'm really confused about what is going on here.

We then tried checking for faults so that we could turn these lights off and go back to the way it was before we attempted the coding (which theoretically should be easy, right? after all, we didn't even change anything). It shows some sort of code that says an ABS diagnostic test has been started but not completed (even though we never initiated such a test). We then tried running through the diagnostic test so it would be completed, but it just loops you in a circle of steps and will not ever come to a completion. Therefore, the lights are still on. It's kind of a vicious cycle.....can't clear the code because the diagnostic test wasn't completed and can't complete the diagnostic test cause it just keeps looping you.

I'm really confused....anyone have ideas/help with this??

Car is a 2009 GTI.
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