ABS/Traction Control Issue

absoluteczech said:

contacted VWoA. They offered to pay 50% only. Asked for more, they said no. 50 is best they would do. Dealer wants $2100 they say its the module, but want to replace module AND pump.....weird?? I talked to dealer and told them lets ONLY do module first. That's $1200 so out of pocket it will be $600. Think I'm gonna go that route and see what happens.

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That's pretty good news for you, congrats! I don't know how a few of you other guys have been able to convince VW to pay for your repairs. I called VWoA and followed with a lengthy, descriptive letter. Their response was a regretful 'no' both times. I was, however, reassured that I would be notified if a recall came about...yay.

I am now about to lay out nearly $2000 for this replacement on such a young car. So now I have a few choices. I can leave the car alone, and hope I don't have an accident caused by ABS issues, and also pretend I didn't know about the problems if/when I sell the car. Or, I can try to fight VW on this. I am thinking about filing a complaint with NHTSA, which can be done right on their site. I wondered if any of you guys living in the states have done or would consider doing the same. Obviously if your cost has been covered, you'll have no interest in this, but I'm hoping there are enough owners whose costs haven't been covered.

You guys think there's any hope here? Or is there any hope in the hard reset thing?

Thanks.

You should file a complaint. Someone can be killed with this issue. Imagine you are entering a slippery ramp and it triggers this problem. Basically all traction control systems and abs are off at this point and there is a chance that you might loose control of the car and crash.

I've been triggering my ABS whenever I can just to see if those lights would return, they have not.

I was surprised when VW customer relations actually called me to offer help. In my letter to them, I explained how serious this issue can be and will be filing a safety concern with Transportation Canada.


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That's pretty good news for you, congrats! I don't know how a few of you other guys have been able to convince VW to pay for your repairs. I called VWoA and followed with a lengthy, descriptive letter. Their response was a regretful 'no' both times. I was, however, reassured that I would be notified if a recall came about...yay.



You guys think there's any hope here? Or is there any hope in the hard reset thing?

Thanks.

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Thanks. What I did is write an email in that 2000 character limit box, telling them how I've been a loyal VW owner for 7 years and have owned 3 myself and "referred" others to the brand, yada yada. Asked for a phone call back, not email. I've always found its a lot harder to tell someone NO over the phone rather than an email. Talked to some lady and was very nice to her. Then some guy called and told me to bring it to the dealer to have it checked. They talked to dealer and offered to cover 50%.

Be a squeaky wheel. :thumbsup: Good luck. Do you have any friends that are handy mechanically and have vag com? It is possible to do as a DIY. But more on the advanced side and needs vag com to be done. Also ask the dealer. My dealer originally wanted to replace module AND pump which is $1600 in parts they said. Module only is a lot less.

just an update. car was fixed. only the module was replaced (they originally wanted to replace pump too). its been 1 week now and no error codes. $680ish after VW's 50% contribution.

absoluteczech said:

just an update. car was fixed. only the module was replaced (they originally wanted to replace pump too). its been 1 week now and no error codes. $680ish after VW's 50% contribution.

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I am now having this same code and issue..I just contacted VWoA today via email. Hope they would cover at least 50%... Heres the code I got after driving on the canyon. I get this code only on the canyons for some reason..

1 Fault Found:
01130 - ABS Operation
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 73
Mileage: 119487 km

i've had intermittent ABS failures but I think now it's finally bit the dust It started Saturday night and now each time I turn on the car the ABS lights freak out and it will not turn off. list of codes is like 3 posts long. not looking forward to this epic bill.

Shit man, did you try disconnecting the battery for a few minutes? It helped me after it started beeping and flashing each time I start the car.

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It's about $600 if you've got the tools to DIY. My ABS light came on again today and went out after a restart. Twice in 2 weeks maybe.

Can you write a DIY with a few photos if you decide to swap it yourself? And do you have to copy the programming from the old module and transfer it to the new abs module? Doable with vag-com?

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boki said:

Shit man, did you try disconnecting the battery for a few minutes? It helped me after it started beeping and flashing each time I start the car.

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i'll give this a a try but I know it's been on its way out from the occasional faults. tuesday it went away but then it came back wednesday and it's been on ever since. i figure i'll have to get it replaced sooner or later.

here's the scan after its first major freakout:

Address 01: Engine (CBF) Labels: 06J-907-115-CBF.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 115 AF HW: 1K0 907 115 AD
Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI 0010
Revision: E3H12--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H53NH98D
Coding: 040301081C070160
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 6ADB78F945B0764E253-803F

3 Faults Found:
053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes
U1017 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 20
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 114027 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 18:05:58

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2482 /min
Load: 14.1 %
Speed: 31.0 km/h
Temperature: 94.0°C
Temperature: 14.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V

053271 - Please Check Fault Codes in Control Module for ABS Brakes
U1017 - 015 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101111
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 114027 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 18:05:59

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2539 /min
Load: 13.7 %
Speed: 32.0 km/h
Temperature: 94.0°C
Temperature: 14.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

050197 - Implausible Data Received from ABS Control Module
U0415 - 004 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 114028 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 18:06:00

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 2795 /min
Load: 13.3 %
Speed: 255.0 km/h
Temperature: 95.0°C
Temperature: 13.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

Readiness: 0110 0100

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-927-770.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 051 C HW: 02E 927 770 AJ
Component: GSG DSG AG6 431 1815
Revision: 04843012 Serial number: 00000805241323
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 1325051D32BA1786365-8046

4 Faults Found:
17106 - Transmission Output Speed Sensor (G195)
P0722 - 000 - No Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 39
Mileage: 113988 km
Time Indication: 0

18201 - Transmission Output Speed Sensor 2 (G196)
P1793 - 000 - No Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 39
Mileage: 113988 km
Time Indication: 0

18255 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller
P1847 - 000 - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 114027 km
Time Indication: 0

02084 - Component Protection
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 255
Reset counter: 40
Mileage: 114065 km
Time Indication: 0

Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AE HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0104
Revision: 00H35001
Coding: 113B600D49250003881306E4921A0041B100
Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
VCID: 75E15B85DC0EA9B6B81-8020

10 Faults Found:
00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left (G47)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 34
Reset counter: 7
Mileage: 395012 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2002.00.04
Time: 16:08:15

Freeze Frame:
Count: 259
Count: 16
Count: 57088
Count: 41
Count: 9472
Count: 32001
Count: 22
Count: 57148

00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 27
Reset counter: 7
Mileage: 113916 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 1
Count: 4608
Count: 57
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 36
Reset counter: 7
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2001.12.05
Time: 16:02:42

Freeze Frame:
Count: 1
Count: 223
Count: 256
Count: 73
Count: 4280
Count: 256
Count: 53471
Count: 272

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 11
Reset counter: 7
Mileage: 113856 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 1
Count: 4608
Count: 89
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 37
Reset counter: 7
Mileage: 113927 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 0
Count: 4608
Count: 128
Count: 110
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

01130 - ABS Operation
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101000
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 37
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 101970 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 4168
Count: 33024
Count: 12800
Count: 125
Count: 47482
Count: 7
Count: 256
Count: 0

16352 - Control Module - Electrical Error
014 - Defective
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101110
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 60
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 114040 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 3
Count: 1
Count: 4608
Count: 233
Count: 33629
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 64768

01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 114065 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 15
Count: 12288
Count: 4239
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 114065 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 15
Count: 12288
Count: 4279
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

01542 - Yaw Rate Sensor (G202)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 223
Mileage: 114065 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
Count: 7
Count: 15
Count: 12288
Count: 4280
Count: 2
Count: 0
Count: 0
Count: 63232

So VWoA denied my claim to help pay for the ABS module..

"I’m sorry to learn of your GTI’s ABS concerns; this is not the type of experience we envision for our customers.

Please know we review every case on an individual basis, as we try to help our customers whenever possible. A significant factor in our ability to do so is a vehicle’s relationship to its warranty parameters.

Because your GTI has exceeded the terms of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty which covered these concerns by more than 24 months, I regret we are unable to assist you with these repairs. I understand this does not meet your expectations, and I am sorry for the frustration and inconvenience this has caused.

Should you have your repairs completed at a Volkswagen dealership and would like us to follow up, please let us know the date and location of your appointment in advance. We can then reach out to the service department while your GTI is there to ensure the repairs are completed to your satisfaction.

You can do so by reply email, by phone at 800-822-8987, or by chatting live with us on www.vw.com. If you have any other questions in the future, please feel free to email us again."

thats a bummer man. when i wrote them i requested a phone call back instead of email. like i said its easier to say no on an email then over the phone.

absoluteczech said:

thats a bummer man. when i wrote them i requested a phone call back instead of email. like i said its easier to say no on an email then over the phone.

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Maybe i should give them a call as well.