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Old 09-01-2014, 12:11 PM   #1
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Lowered GTI vs road median = :(

So, a couple nights ago I was hit an unmarked road median when I went to make a left into a turning lane at an intersection. There were 10 warning/hazard poles sticking out of the 3 inch high median, however 3 had been previously taken out by another vehicle(s), leaving only a 2inch high piece of metal sticking out of the concrete median (where the 4 ft. tall hazard pole use to be).

Needless to say, I did not even see the median, or the pole stub until a split second before impact. My car went over the median, with the pole stub ripping through the front splash guard, across the bottom of the transmission housing and back out through the driver side door, just behind the wheel well. Anyhow, I've included a pic of the transmission housing (pan?) damage, along with a damaged bolt. The transmission ran fine directly afterwards (no noise,hesitation), however it was leaking, so I had it towed to the dealership. My question is: can this part of the transmission be replaced (housing/pan), without replacing the whole transmission? If I have to replace the entire transmission my car will be essentially totaled..:(
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Old 09-01-2014, 12:43 PM   #2
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I suggest you go to your nearest Walmart and buy some J-B Weld for $5, apply liberally, and avoid a)medians b)insurance premiums c)getting raped by the stealership.
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:08 PM   #3
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I suggest you go to your nearest Walmart and buy some J-B Weld for $5, apply liberally, and avoid a)medians b)insurance premiums c)getting raped by the stealership.
some glue is not going to fix a leak. get it fixed right.
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Old 09-01-2014, 03:18 PM   #4
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some glue is not going to fix a leak. get it fixed right.
1) JB Weld is not glue.
2) I used to fix a gash in my oil pan after my idiot friend tried to use it as a "good spot to Jack the car up from" and it never failed....
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:37 PM   #5
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Don't drive drunk and this won't happen. And how can this be serious? You had the car TOWED TO THE DEALER for this? You have a minor ding on the bottom of the motor / trans. Big deal. Epoxy it over.
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It was minor in that it appears to only have directly affected the housing/pan. However, it was leaking fluid. It was enough to completely soak an entire paper grocery bag overnight (I placed under the car to see the extent/rate of the leak. I had it towed as I did not want to run the risk of actually damaging the transmission itself, in the event that enough fluid leaked out to cause a failure.

Anyhow, to break the question down: Can the housing/pan be replaced without replacing the entire transmission?
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:25 PM   #7
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It was minor in that it appears to only have directly affected the housing/pan. However, it was leaking fluid. It was enough to completely soak an entire paper grocery bag overnight (I placed under the car to see the extent/rate of the leak. I had it towed as I did not want to run the risk of actually damaging the transmission itself, in the event that enough fluid leaked out to cause a failure.

Anyhow, to break the question down: Can the housing/pan be replaced without replacing the entire transmission?
nope. gonna have to pull it for all that. sucks man
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Old 09-02-2014, 12:11 PM   #8
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Figure out how to epoxy it and get ride of the car ASAP. Not worth paying $$$$ for the stealer to fix that stuff "the right way"
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:22 PM   #9
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So... I got the estimate. $7200 :( There is subframe damage and they would need to replace the transmission (dsg). The car is probably only worth a little over $8,000 at this point. Will find out what my insurance says tomorrow. They are apparently going to try to go after the city for not replacing the multiple warning/hazard poles taken out by a previous accident(s).
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So... I got the estimate. $7200 :( There is subframe damage and they would need to replace the transmission (dsg). The car is probably only worth a little over $8,000 at this point. Will find out what my insurance says tomorrow. They are apparently going to try to go after the city for not replacing the multiple warning/hazard poles taken out by a previous accident(s).

by the time the city denies the accident you car will be worth 5ooo.

poles should break away clean if the design was good.

do a cheap fix.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:02 AM   #11
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So... I got the estimate. $7200 :( There is subframe damage and they would need to replace the transmission (dsg). The car is probably only worth a little over $8,000 at this point. Will find out what my insurance says tomorrow. They are apparently going to try to go after the city for not replacing the multiple warning/hazard poles taken out by a previous accident(s).
Did you get a police report? Because if you didn't the city isn't going to take your word that this was their fault. I'm telling you, you are wasting your time....shortwagen is right, that will take forever, and you'll MAYBE get a settlement amount, you definitely won't get the whole thing covered...ask me how I know...I've lived in VA for 14 years...

Any particular reason why you're against JB weld, or even epoxy?
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:58 AM   #12
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Car was lowered and no police report for the accident. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Did you get a police report? Because if you didn't the city isn't going to take your word that this was their fault. I'm telling you, you are wasting your time....shortwagen is right, that will take forever, and you'll MAYBE get a settlement amount, you definitely won't get the whole thing covered...ask me how I know...I've lived in VA for 14 years...

Any particular reason why you're against JB weld, or even epoxy?
The insurance company might go after the city to recoup but I'm not sure if that would prevent them from paying out the claim to the OP. But they'll probably total the car and we'll get a new part out in the classifieds.

Insurance companies sue all the time to cover claims. If someone gets hurt at your house their insurance company might try sue you to cover the claim.
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Old 09-03-2014, 12:40 PM   #14
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Car was lowered and no police report for the accident. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
It won't. Vehicle had altered suspension, and no one official reported on the event. Unfortunately lots of people do things like what happened to op on purpose, just to scam the state or their insurance....
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Old 09-03-2014, 02:29 PM   #15
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That's not to say his insurance won't pay, but..

wait. nearly $8 on a car worth the same...?

See my post above.
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Old 09-03-2014, 03:13 PM   #16
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Aww. This thread is cute.

This damage is nothing. JB weld it up and next time don't be an idiot

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I split an A4 oil pan open on a parking lot bumper. They make those things too damn big sometimes. Cost me $700.
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Update: My insurance found another dsg transmission, rebuilt with about half the miles on it ( same make/model etc.). Apparently the company they bought it from offer a lifetime warranty. However, I'm sure that comes with a lot of " *." Anyhow it will be $3600 vs. $7200 (which includes a subframe part replacement, also salvaged). To answer multiple questions on the JB weld/epoxy: I'm sure it will work...in the short term. I'm not so confident it will last the lifetime of my car. I'd rather have the peace of mind, and better re-sale / trade-in value. Not to mention, potential metal bits/shavings that may have been since introduced into the housing (potential for future damage), along with the loss of a significant amount of transmission fluid.

As far as the insurance company going after the city goes, I'm sure that will ultimately go nowhere (for aforementioned reasons), but who knows. I'm sure this whole thing was caught on a dozen different cameras ( intersection,Kroger grocery store, wells fargo bank, gas station,etc.), none of which will be petitioned, none of which will have footage even stored that long.
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That was fast. Good to hear it's working out.
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Old 09-03-2014, 11:16 PM   #20
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I hit a manhole that was sticking out of the road 3" during construction. I called the city with no police report but I did have pictures. The city had the road contractor pay for my repairs.
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Update: My insurance found another dsg transmission, rebuilt with about half the miles on it ( same make/model etc.). Apparently the company they bought it from offer a lifetime warranty. However, I'm sure that comes with a lot of " *." Anyhow it will be $3600 vs. $7200 (which includes a subframe part replacement, also salvaged). To answer multiple questions on the JB weld/epoxy: I'm sure it will work...in the short term. I'm not so confident it will last the lifetime of my car. I'd rather have the peace of mind, and better re-sale / trade-in value. Not to mention, potential metal bits/shavings that may have been since introduced into the housing (potential for future damage), along with the loss of a significant amount of transmission fluid.

As far as the insurance company going after the city goes, I'm sure that will ultimately go nowhere (for aforementioned reasons), but who knows. I'm sure this whole thing was caught on a dozen different cameras ( intersection,Kroger grocery store, wells fargo bank, gas station,etc.), none of which will be petitioned, none of which will have footage even stored that long.
It's your car, but seriously....$3600 versus $6? You're going to dump half of the car's worth into it? There's someone selling a GTI with blown engine on here for four stacks....you should just buy that....JB Weld will last the lifetime of that car. The transmission will fail before the JB Weld does. Like I said previously, I had it on my oil pan, which is hot as Hades, and it lasted for over 40k miles, and is still going strong.
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But his insurance is paying that, minus whatever his deductible is.
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