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Old 01-04-2010, 03:36 AM   #23
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thanks for all the useful info.

will look into everything suggested thanks boys :)
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Old 01-04-2010, 04:43 AM   #24
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yea, such a shame you drive a car like its supposed to be driven..


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Old 01-04-2010, 08:44 AM   #25
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yes hmmm the S3 was built to be a track car. i apologise for my narrow-mindedness.
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:01 AM   #26
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There is one kid on VWvortex (from Japan I think) who had one made for him. Try to search archived posts. He had HPA turbo kit installed.

Generally I am told DSG's operating oil pressure far pass the point of what standard oil coolers can take. You need specially made cooler, pipes, adapters and know where to tap... Or some how remove factory heat exchanger and replace it with low pressure cooler. This way you loose transmission heating future done ny engine coolant.

Mounting additional water radiator to cool engine coolant before DSG heat exchanger will cause DSG to take MUCH longer to reach it's full operating temperature with coming from that adverse effects.

I read, that part of the problem is your coolant temperatures go well pass 90c (read your vagcom). If you can improve engine coolant cooling, than it will help DSG a bit. So you need ether larger/better radiator or use chemical cooling (water injection).
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Old 01-05-2010, 12:43 AM   #27
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I suppose it isn't done yet, but I wonder if we will see series racing with dsg-equipped cars one day?

For example, the US Jetta TDI series for your drivers or a Porsche series for older gentlemen and ladies. Maybe we will see this with Nissan GTR-series racing, too. :)

Perhaps Robby could pioneer the tuning of dsg boxes for cool running in trackwork!
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Old 01-05-2010, 01:41 AM   #28
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I suppose it isn't done yet, but I wonder if we will see series racing with dsg-equipped cars one day?

For example, the US Jetta TDI series for your drivers or a Porsche series for older gentlemen and ladies. Maybe we will see this with Nissan GTR-series racing, too. :)

Perhaps Robby could pioneer the tuning of dsg boxes for cool running in trackwork!
Volkswagen raced DSG siroccos at the Nuremberg 24 hour race and finished two cars in the top 10. The only gearbox mods were heavy duty clutch packs. You can see the stock DSG cooler in pics at the bottom of the page below. You could I guess make this cooler bigger?

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3855643
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Old 01-05-2010, 02:18 AM   #29
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If you want to improve engine coolant cooling then just do the polarbear radiator mod.




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My coolant temp struggles to go past 87'c when before it would roar to 89 and the fans would come on.
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Old 01-05-2010, 07:02 AM   #30
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Rob, here's some info I've got from Guy @ APR.
ARC in Japan is experimenting with the DSG cooler without much luck.
If you do happen to stumble upon something, please let me know too.
My car was fine on the last track day, cause I just have a DSG oil change.
I think this will help with the problem, but would be an expensive exercise to change oil everytime you track the car....bummer....

BTW, Did you manage to get a new wheel?

FYI, moomoonel is also building a new track car.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:31 AM   #31
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What a about directing air from the front of the car to the heat exchanger/dsg cooler on top of the box.

I have no factory airbox or battery and can see my engine mounts and the exchanger directly, I might whack some pipe so that it is blasted with cold air.

Thoughts anyone?
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:05 AM   #32
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Since the beginning of the tread it was realized that adding oil cooler instead of OEM heat exchanger can be a bad idea due to increase in cc (capacity) of the volume of pressurized oil. May upset machatronics.

The good alternative seem to be and additional thermostated/controlled coolant radiator instaled before DSG heater. This way you still get DSG oil warm up by coolant flowing thru the engine, followed by DSG cooling by coolant.

Part of the issue that on track engine coolant get to 120C, not helping to cool DSG much as it runs over 130C itself. If you can get coolant back to 100C mark, this will allow DSG to dump heat back to cooling system.
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Old 07-27-2013, 08:17 PM   #33
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Old theme, but if you have interest, try to contact dealer for bigger OEM DSG cooler. I have information, that oil temp is about 10C down. I mean, that P/N is 02E409061E, it is not in ETKA, but it exist ;)
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Old 05-29-2018, 08:46 AM   #34
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Old theme, but if you have interest, try to contact dealer for bigger OEM DSG cooler. I have information, that oil temp is about 10C down. I mean, that P/N is 02E409061E, it is not in ETKA, but it exist ;)
I tried to track down this oil cooler PN but the dealer says even the factory does not have any stock of it and the new part is 02E409061D.

I wonder if its the same size, bigger DSG oil cooler. If anyone knows any alternative PNs in 2018 let me know please.
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