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Old 02-07-2013, 12:22 PM   #23
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11) 46 > 1k0 122 101 DK > this is the code I now have on my car and there's no refference in the list posted by daigo about this one but under my VIN there are several options for hot climate (see pic below). Optional codes for this one are > 1k0 121 101 CA, 1k0 122 101 EA and 1k0 121 101 CC > really confused here as I don't know if I need this one and why so many codes ! The R20 has 1k0 122 101 JT wich is neither of the above 4 so it doesn't help at all !
No.46, I think the difference is the length of radiator feed pipe.
You can see the 2 way joint shown at No.43 set (no.44 o-ring & no.45 clip), that is not equipped with stock AXX cars. Probably my dealer cut the original pipe and adjusted the length so that is why it was not on my list.
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Old 02-07-2013, 12:49 PM   #24
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Ok, here's the pic of the R20



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The r20 has that ''46'' wich includes ''42'', ''43'' and ''47''. I've got ''43'' and ''47'' on my car but with different codes, but I don't have the ''42'' T-shaped connector. As you can see, that pipe is one piece on my car and 2 pieces + that connector between them on R20. On the lower branch of the ''42'' connector enters the ''4'' pipe (or ''4'' enters connector ''10'', I see 2 options on the drawing for ''4''). I've also got the ''4'' but on my car can only enter ''10'' I guess !
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Old 02-07-2013, 01:11 PM   #25
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R20 has both ''10'' and ''42'' connectors and from the drawing the hose number ''4'' could enter any of them



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My GTI has only ''10'' and it also has 2 lines, one that goes to ''10'' and one that goes nowhere (same path as on the other drawing but there's no connector to enter there)



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Old 02-08-2013, 08:12 AM   #26
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My GTI has only ''10'' and it also has 2 lines, one that goes to ''10'' and one that goes nowhere (same path as on the other drawing but there's no connector to enter there)
ETKA sometimes makes us confusing.

Blue route shows stock AXX plumbing, and red shows piping with secondary radiator.
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:14 AM   #27
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From the pic it doesn't seem like "4" could be directly connected to "1" through the blue line. If it's like this, I don't need to cut my hose in 2 and introduce the 42 connector, isn't it ?
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:13 AM   #28
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From the pic it doesn't seem like "4" could be directly connected to "1" through the blue line. If it's like this, I don't need to cut my hose in 2 and introduce the 42 connector, isn't it ?
It does not directly connect into "1". And this "1" kit is for vehicle with manual shift only. Dealer tech told me that main radiator outlet location is different between DSG.

Also, "4" does not goes into "42". ETKA is wrong. "47" pipe goes into "42".
"4" goes into "10" same as stock, which has triple connections.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:24 AM   #29
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I've got manual so I have the outlet on the upper left of the radiator (on the drawing) and I have the "1" kit. Now, on the pic, "10" connector has 4 outputs (branches) for "7", "5", "4" and "1". Now, if "4" enters "10" on both car models, what enters in the lower branch of the "42" connector and do I need that connector afterall ? :)
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what enters in the lower branch of the "42" connector and do I need that connector afterall ? :)
"47" goes into "42" lower branch, or the other red circled lower branch. I don't have "42", mine has the other circled joint. Opposite side of the hose "47" goes into secondary radiator which ETKA picture is wrong.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:19 AM   #31
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Ok, daigo, I will go without "46" or "42" and see where it goes. I will document the install with pics when time comes. Thanks alot for your time, it's been really helpful !
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Old 02-08-2013, 07:21 PM   #32
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You need a red circled part either "42" or the one on left(mine) to attach "47" hose.
Its easy to check mine under the hood, I'll write mine then.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:39 AM   #33
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You can see my "47" hose attached to the red circled part, sorry could not identify this p/n...
Better purchase "46" and "42" to connect "47".
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I think 46 includes 42 so with 46 I shouldn't go wrong no matter what !
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:07 PM   #35
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Nice work guys, this is starting to make sense.

Are you able to source a DSG EKTA diagram having the coolant coming out of the bottom of the radiator. That's how my R32 is setup.

The input of the secondary radiator seems clear but I'm not sure where my setup would integrate the output of the secondary radiator.
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Old 02-10-2013, 08:01 PM   #36
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Nice work guys, this is starting to make sense.

Are you able to source a DSG EKTA diagram having the coolant coming out of the bottom of the radiator. That's how my R32 is setup.

The input of the secondary radiator seems clear but I'm not sure where my setup would integrate the output of the secondary radiator.
Thanks.

I think input and output are the same as our turbo cars. output from secondary radiator joins no.10 quad joint.
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Old 02-11-2013, 12:01 PM   #37
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Nice work guys, this is starting to make sense.

Are you able to source a DSG EKTA diagram having the coolant coming out of the bottom of the radiator. That's how my R32 is setup.

The input of the secondary radiator seems clear but I'm not sure where my setup would integrate the output of the secondary radiator.

There's a bigger DSG 'cooler' available:





I don't remember exactly, but I guess originally T5 Multivan, Passat R36 and some Audi use it.

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Thanks Bruce,
Wow this is really biiiiig heat exchanger!!
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Had to share these pics posted by Bruce > http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...c,59674.0.html

It looks like those 265HP cars (315 with push-to pass) use 2 OEM (or very similar) radiators. By the shape and those 2 close to each other exits I'd say they are OEM. What do you guys say ? 2 water or 1 for water and the other for oil ?
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I was wondering that too.

Well, I'd say its 2 water cooler, because if its an oil you'll need an oil outlet but I can't find it on the picture.
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"47" goes into "42" lower branch, or the other red circled lower branch. I don't have "42", mine has the other circled joint. Opposite side of the hose "47" goes into secondary radiator which ETKA picture is wrong.
"the other circled joint" is "43" if I see correctly on Etka and that is already on the parts list posted by you and bruce. If I'm taking that one, I should connect 47 to it and there will be no need for the 42 connector then. In this case the original list would be enough (without 42 or 46)
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Ok, found some older pics of my car wich seems to point I actually have the 42 and not the 43 on my car !!!



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Congratulations!
I also found the old picture, this vehicle is not mine but the 2005 model RHD GTI with DSG. You can see how "47" tube goes into secondary radiator. Mine is just like this.

You joint "47" hose from "42", purchase Golf R "47" hose not same as mine.
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On my 42 there is already a hose going towards left (on the second pic). Where is that going to enter if I'm going to put 47 there ? Also, from my pic, I don't have 43 at all although ETKA says I have it but with another code than hot climate cars. Having 43 or 42 should impact on all hoses that enter them, so having 43 instead of 43 would modify the main hose of 46 (wich doesn't have a code itself but rather comes as a package composed of 43, 47 and 42). Maybe they sell it as a package just to be sure they fit each other but there are 3 codes available under my VIN as posted at the beginning of this page at point 11 !
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