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Old 07-22-2014, 09:51 PM   #1
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2014 BRZ Build Thread (Boosted!!!)

Hey guys, so I previously owned a MKV GTI, that I dumped WAYYYYY too much money into, but I didn't chronologies my build. My MKV was stolen from my drive-way two weeks ago, and was found totaled over 800 miles away from where it was taken from. This time around, I knew I wanted RWD, and after MANY MANY MANY hours of pouring over forums, and talking to people, and test driving a half-dozen cars, I ended up with a BRZ. This thread (if I remember to update it) will tell the story of my BRZ going from bone stock to a boosted, trackable, DD-able car.

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-2014 BRZ Limited
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Eye Candy: (Crappy phone pictures at the dealer....)





Car is currently 98% stock. Immediate plans include new tires, lighter wheels, intake, 30% tint, and possibly a Perrin exhaust...after all of that is done, I'm going to go look into forced-induction systems and a tune. (not necessarily in that order) I'm trying to decide between a TD04 from an STI, or going the Vortech route...I've never had a supercharged car before, so maybe I'll try that. Hell, maybe I'll go full retard someday and do both...

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Old 07-22-2014, 10:12 PM   #2
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:00 PM   #4
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it comes with those badges?

my other fav car. cool.
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Old 07-22-2014, 11:08 PM   #5
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it comes with those badges?

my other fav car. cool.
You mean the Red JDM badges? I guess those are technically "aftermarket"...lol
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I like the name of the color.....
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I need to stop looking at threads where people are modding these cars and finish my gti already
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I need to stop looking at threads where people are modding these cars
meh, I love reading build threads....even for cars that wouldn't buy if they were the last car in the world....
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meh, I love reading build threads....even for cars that wouldn't buy if they were the last car in the world....
You're missing the point, I have a BRZ and don't want to be tempted any more than I already am to modify it.
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You're missing the point, I have a BRZ and don't want to be tempted any more than I already am to modify it.
so, you're saying i should make a build thread?
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You're missing the point, I have a BRZ and don't want to be tempted any more than I already am to modify it.
eh, buildthread?
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so, you're saying i should make a build thread?
precisely. Max, you too!
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It's sad you didn't get a MK7 but I understand your decision.

I actually chose my GTI over a used BRZ. It was quite a bit cheaper and I figured I wouldn't have to fumble around with an aftermarket turbo assembly because it's turbo from the factory.

I also knew that heavy modifications would bite me later if I went SCCA.

As for the BRZ, a few of my friends have one so I'll make some reco's for you:
Don't go with a blower or a "from this other stock car" turbo. Go with a full on aftermarket kit. Every single "DIY Turbo" I've seen, turns into a one year project just to get it running. This is your DD I'm assuming, so don't do a "turbo yourself" project unless you can stand going 7-8 months without being able to drive your car the way you want. Anything can go wrong from fuel issues to air issues, to boost leaks, to shit just not running the way it's supposed to. And you won't have ANYONE to turn to except SUPER EXPENSIVE shops because they're going to have to go through your whole build to figure out what went wrong. The reason aftermarket kits cost so much is because a lot of time goes into making sure they work for practically ever sample of your car.

This guy worked at it for a year and ended up selling the car after only putting 2000 miles on it when the kit was finished:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16487

Versus the Greddy Tuner Turbo kit, which costs $5200 and comes with everything you need and puts down 93 whp and 68 ft-lb out the door. Save yourself money and time and go with a pre-made kit.

Whatever you plan on doing with FI, plan on compensating at the drive train. The transmission on the BRZ isn't meant to handle much more than the stock horsepower, especially not the differential and clutch disc. I would also look into an LSD while you will have it taken apart.

If you want a "cheaper" wheel upgrade, I would try to grab WRX or STi wheels for the wider grip and better tire dimensions. BRZ stock wheel size is like baby tires. I wouldn't trust them with 250+ horsepower to the rear wheels.

I also think you should skip the intake/exhaust entirely because a turbo is going to change everything about that set up (down-pipe and turbo-back versus header-back exhaust, FMIC or top mounted intercooler versus radiator and CAI only, different exhaust pressure requiring different diameter).

Look into a backseat delete because those backseats are worthless.

Otherwise, focus on suspension and take her out to a track so you can be amazed by the lateral grip and turn in capabilities of that car! It's a blast to drive, probably the only car I've had more fun in than a Miata, (but not as fun as an S2K, turbo will change that).

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It's sad you didn't get a MK7 but I understand your decision.

I actually chose my GTI over a used BRZ. It was quite a bit cheaper and I figured I wouldn't have to fumble around with an aftermarket turbo assembly because it's turbo from the factory.

I also knew that heavy modifications would bite me later if I went SCCA.

As for the BRZ, a few of my friends have one so I'll make some reco's for you:
Don't go with a blower or a "from this other stock car" turbo. Go with a full on aftermarket kit. Every single "DIY Turbo" I've seen, turns into a one year project just to get it running. This is your DD I'm assuming, so don't do a "turbo yourself" project unless you can stand going 7-8 months without being able to drive your car the way you want. Anything can go wrong from fuel issues to air issues, to boost leaks, to shit just not running the way it's supposed to. And you won't have ANYONE to turn to except SUPER EXPENSIVE shops because they're going to have to go through your whole build to figure out what went wrong. The reason aftermarket kits cost so much is because a lot of time goes into making sure they work for practically ever sample of your car.

It is my DD, but it doesn't have to be...I also have a 2006 GLI, so I could DD that...

This guy worked at it for a year and ended up selling the car after only putting 2000 miles on it when the kit was finished:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16487

Versus the Greddy Tuner Turbo kit, which costs $5200 and comes with everything you need and puts down 93 whp and 68 ft-lb out the door. Save yourself money and time and go with a pre-made kit.

I think in the end, I probably will just do a kit. But I think I'd rather go with a supercharger....no oil lines, and in general, much easier to install/doesn't tamper with the original engine as much

Whatever you plan on doing with FI, plan on compensating at the drive train. The transmission on the BRZ isn't meant to handle much more than the stock horsepower, especially not the differential and clutch disc. I would also look into an LSD while you will have it taken apart.

That's for damn sure. I already break the wheels free just making turns...and not even at speed....clutch and LSD are at the top of my list..

If you want a "cheaper" wheel upgrade, I would try to grab WRX or STi wheels for the wider grip and better tire dimensions. BRZ stock wheel size is like baby tires. I wouldn't trust them with 250+ horsepower to the rear wheels.

Haha, a lot of people do that..I actually hate STi wheels...(I know, I know...) I'm probably going to grab some RPF1s, or some Grids...eventually, I'll get a 3-piece, but my dream wheel for this car is some LE37s!

I also think you should skip the intake/exhaust entirely because a turbo is going to change everything about that set up (down-pipe and turbo-back versus header-back exhaust, FMIC or top mounted intercooler versus radiator and CAI only, different exhaust pressure requiring different diameter).

Intake is already done, just a "filter-on-a-stick" setup; and I've already installed a Perrin HBE exhaust...that went on two days after I bought it haha

Look into a backseat delete because those backseats are worthless.



Otherwise, focus on suspension and take her out to a track so you can be amazed by the lateral grip and turn in capabilities of that car! It's a blast to drive, probably the only car I've had more fun in than a Miata, (but not as fun as an S2K, turbo will change that).
It is an absolute blast to drive, you said it! Just needs a little more torque, in my opinion...

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Old 08-29-2014, 12:19 PM   #20
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**UPDATE**

Yes, I suck at updating this...I actually forgot that I had this....

Day 3 of ownership: Had a Perrin HBE exhaust installed.

Impressions: Very happy with the exhaust note. It's just enough, but not so much that it gets me attention from local law enforcement. Butt dyno told me that there was a slight torque increase, but not much.

Been reading a lot about the Phantom supercharger, and it seems like it might not be a bad option, for as inexpensive as it is. Plan is still to supercharge, but I'm just deciding between the Phantom (maybe temporary?) and a Vortech kit...thoughts?

Also, trying to decide whether I want RPF1s like everyone else in the world, or if I want some Grids....I really need a wider rear tire, kind of want a 17x9, or even an 18x9...just don't know exactly what I can fit, and what will require fender rolling or lowering...
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The standard set-up for these cars on coils is 18x9.5 et35-40 with 255/35/18 tires and about -2 camber. The finders are LARGE on this car, no rolling needed. I'm on 17x9 et37 on 255/40/17 and I'm super low. I scrape the pinch weld too often.

If you are gonna stay on springs you can't go quite that aggressive.
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I am old and have modified a bunch of my cars, done superchargers and turbos. Superchargers work but I consistently had pulley belt/drive issues they are simpler but more problematic in my opinion. The super requires a lot of power to drive it and is always under a lot of stress where turbos are not. My turbo installs once dialed in always just worked. My last car was a Vortcech supercharged GTO LS1. I had lots of issues with that one and the blower was replaced once and then failed again after I sold the car. Lots of belt slippage issues it was a real headache. However when it ran properly it really worked. Go turbo!!
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