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The Model 3 ruined my life

The Fed

Old Guys Rule
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Florida
There are two battery developments being worked on - really, really fast charging, and batteries that won't self-destruct if shorted. One other issue is range, once they can increase power density and lighten the batteries you'll see many more electrics. Maybe then economies of scale will bring the prices down to where they should be. The only other problem is there are not enough charging stations. Even the Superchargers are a joke, because they can only accommodate a very small amount of vehicles at a time.
 

dr_mat

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Location
Berkshire
One other issue is range, once they can increase power density and lighten the batteries you'll see many more electrics. Maybe then economies of scale will bring the prices down to where they should be. The only other problem is there are not enough charging stations. Even the Superchargers are a joke, because they can only accommodate a very small amount of vehicles at a time.
.. but the VAST majority of EV charges take place at their home, overnight. The truth is that a lot of charge points don't get used much because people just don't travel far enough to need to charge anywhere other than at home.

EV uptake will rocket in the UK next year as the zero BIK tax rate kicks in. They'll be essentially free as company cars, and since the majority of company cars are given to people who simply commute daily as a perk, this will be a no brainer for most (those with a driveway, at least), and a big saving on the £3-5k a year in tax they're paying at the moment.

Don't believe the haters, the lifetime running cost of literally ANY EV is comfortably lower than an equivalent ICE car even if you can't rely on the charging being ultra cheap for ever, and the lifetime environmental impact (CO2, energy, particulates, pretty much any metric you can think of) of ANY EV in its worst case scenario is better than the best case scenario for an ultra-modern, ultra clean ICE car. And the EV will be twice as quick for free. You just have to put up with stopping on long journeys to charge every so often, and we'd all agree that there's definitely plenty of scope to improve that experience, there's just not enough of them and they're just not reliable enough, yet. And yes, faster charging will be a big win too. The balance of driving:charging times needs to be well beyond 4:1 to be comfortable. i.e. when you can drive for 4 hours on a charge, then refill in an hour, that's getting to where you need to be. That needs to be around 300 miles range on the motorway and charging at around 150kw. Lots of Tesla model 3s on the road can do exactly this, today.

The price of an EV is still higher than ICE cars that's very true, though new models are bringing prices down. In some respects you're paying up front for the savings you'll get down the line. Perhaps this encourages people to invest in a car and keep it longer? ; you'll only really realise the savings if you keep the car for longer periods of time. No more swapping cars every two/three years??

I like the fact that this is disrupting what was essentially a cosy cartel of ICE car manufacturers who had zero incentive to improve the product they sold. It needed disrupting.
 
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