The COVID19 SCAMdemic... WW3 Is 2 Days Away - Another Distraction From This Administration's Epic Fails

[anotero]

'Unverified' 'Coincidences'
Big Brother will give you a cookie.
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These fucks love big brother. Have you noticed none of the bitches here speak out against high taxes and low return on them? None of them speak out against widespread government corruption, horrible healthcare driven by profits, atrocious education, non-stop wars, etc. All they bitch about is the racist fad (biggest problem of today, yeah) and other secondary crap. Why? Because they are retarded and love big brother.

 

[zrickety]

You know, maybe it was that gosh darn mask cutting off oxygen to my brain for so long, but I just can't follow what you're trying to say.

Exactly.

 

[zrickety]

@Acadia18 read the thread title.
Then visit this page.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity...mpleted-projects/spars-pandemic-scenario.html

 

[Hungry4hops]

 

[Unreal1]

It doesn't matter how many indisputable facts you bring to bear, you're never going to change anyone's mind. After 2,900 pages no one has budged despite being provably wrong on many counts.

"Protecting our sense of self makes us highly resistant to changing our beliefs."

But, where does our sense of self come from? Does it actually come from our beliefs, or does it come from people we choose to identify with?

Because what's interesting is a lot of people would rather change their beliefs/values than go against their own allegiances. We see this most prominently when it comes to the left and Fauci, and the right with Trump.

Based on everything we know right now, the American people deserve a bi-partisan investigation. Maybe there's no wrong-doing at all, but there are certainly enough red flags to warrant an investigation. An investigation into any conflicts of interest Fauci may have, our funding for gain of function research, any potential cover-up by Fauci, his lies under oath, etc. Do we not deserve answers and transparency? But, the left will never admit this. They rather protect their own instead of being the good-willed people they desperately claim to be.

We also saw this in other areas as well. Somehow the left became the warmongers when Obama was bombing countries and ousting foreign rulers while his supporters remained silent. Values change to keep allegiances intact.

Similarly, the right does the exact same with Trump. All of a sudden allegedly staunch conservatives are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about a President who implemented socialist economic policy, pushed anti-gun legislation, ran up a deficit (pre-covid) that Bernie Sanders would envy, all while throwing a huge wrench in free market capitalism. Trump said verbatim while in office that he wants to "take guns first, go through due process second." He pushed anti-2A red flag laws and appointed an anti-gun AG, Barr (even according to the GoA), who also pushed republicans on anti-gun legislation. Yet, they support Trump to the point they are willing to stage a coup in order to keep him power.

Trump was a populist, he took popular opinions from the left and right, but to call him a conservative is an absolute insult to true conservatives whose values don't waver for any man.

All in all, really makes you wonder if we only have allegiances and not values in this country.

 

[JC_451]

Endless investigations are just more propaganda since literally nothing will come from them.

Investigate Fauci for what? To satisfy crackpots?

 

[zrickety]

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Sort of funny, but if he really had it, he'd be sitting his ass at home.

 

[zrickety]

Endless investigations are just more propaganda since literally nothing will come from them.

Investigate Fauci for what? To satisfy crackpots?

You win the internet today.

 

[zrickety]

It doesn't matter how many indisputable facts you bring to bear, you're never going to change anyone's mind. After 2,900 pages no one has budged despite being provably wrong on many counts.

"Protecting our sense of self makes us highly resistant to changing our beliefs."

But, where does our sense of self come from? Does it actually come from our beliefs, or does it come from people we choose to identify with?

Because what's interesting is a lot of people would rather change their beliefs/values than go against their own allegiances. We see this most prominently when it comes to the left and Fauci, and the right with Trump.

Based on everything we know right now, the American people deserve a bi-partisan investigation. Maybe there's no wrong-doing at all, but there are certainly enough red flags to warrant an investigation. An investigation into any conflicts of interest Fauci may have, our funding for gain of function research, any potential cover-up by Fauci, his lies under oath, etc. Do we not deserve answers and transparency? But, the left will never admit this. They rather protect their own instead of being the good-willed people they desperately claim to be.

We also saw this in other areas as well. Somehow the left became the warmongers when Obama was bombing countries and ousting foreign rulers while his supporters remained silent. Values change to keep allegiances intact.

Similarly, the right does the exact same with Trump. All of a sudden allegedly staunch conservatives are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about a President who implemented socialist economic policy, pushed anti-gun legislation, ran up a deficit (pre-covid) that Bernie Sanders would envy, all while throwing a huge wrench in free market capitalism. Trump said verbatim while in office that he wants to "take guns first, go through due process second." He pushed anti-2A red flag laws and appointed an anti-gun AG, Barr (even according to the GoA), who also pushed republicans on anti-gun legislation. Yet, they support Trump to the point they are willing to stage a coup in order to keep him power.

Trump was a populist, he took popular opinions from the left and right, but to call him a conservative is an absolute insult to true conservatives whose values don't waver for any man.

All in all, really makes you wonder if we only have allegiances and not values in this country.

 

[Unreal1]

Endless investigations are just more propaganda since literally nothing will come from them.

Investigate Fauci for what? To satisfy crackpots?

Not just Fauci, but also a real investigation into the origins of covid. The one they already did was a joke. It was run by a guy who would be indicting himself if it was indeed a lab leak.

If we do nothing, we set a terribly dangerous precedence.

 

[GTIfan99]

It doesn't matter how many indisputable facts you bring to bear, you're never going to change anyone's mind. After 2,900 pages no one has budged despite being provably wrong on many counts.

"Protecting our sense of self makes us highly resistant to changing our beliefs."

But, where does our sense of self come from? Does it actually come from our beliefs, or does it come from people we choose to identify with?

Because what's interesting is a lot of people would rather change their beliefs/values than go against their own allegiances. We see this most prominently when it comes to the left and Fauci, and the right with Trump.

Based on everything we know right now, the American people deserve a bi-partisan investigation. Maybe there's no wrong-doing at all, but there are certainly enough red flags to warrant an investigation. An investigation into any conflicts of interest Fauci may have, our funding for gain of function research, any potential cover-up by Fauci, his lies under oath, etc. Do we not deserve answers and transparency? But, the left will never admit this. They rather protect their own instead of being the good-willed people they desperately claim to be.

We also saw this in other areas as well. Somehow the left became the warmongers when Obama was bombing countries and ousting foreign rulers while his supporters remained silent. Values change to keep allegiances intact.

Similarly, the right does the exact same with Trump. All of a sudden allegedly staunch conservatives are overwhelmingly enthusiastic about a President who implemented socialist economic policy, pushed anti-gun legislation, ran up a deficit (pre-covid) that Bernie Sanders would envy, all while throwing a huge wrench in free market capitalism. Trump said verbatim while in office that he wants to "take guns first, go through due process second." He pushed anti-2A red flag laws and appointed an anti-gun AG, Barr (even according to the GoA), who also pushed republicans on anti-gun legislation. Yet, they support Trump to the point they are willing to stage a coup in order to keep him power.

Trump was a populist, he took popular opinions from the left and right, but to call him a conservative is an absolute insult to true conservatives whose values don't waver for any man.

All in all, really makes you wonder if we only have allegiances and not values in this country.

Trump is and was a two bit coin man. Period. He always has been and always will be. Left and right used to recognize that.

Trump took the worst ideas from the left and the right.

 

[GTIfan99]

Not just Fauci, but also a real investigation into the origins of covid. The one they already did was a joke. It was run by a guy who would be indicting himself if it was indeed a lab leak.

If we do nothing, we set a terribly dangerous precedence.

Except, that's nonsense. Again, Obama banned and defunded Gain of Function research, Trump authorized and funded it. Because Fauci overseas the governments agency that does the research, it wouldn't make it an indictment of himself. It would be an indictment of Gain of Function research.

 

[Unreal1]

Except, that's nonsense. Again, Obama banned and defunded Gain of Function research, Trump authorized and funded it. Because Fauci overseas the governments agency that does the research, it wouldn't make it an indictment of himself. It would be an indictment of Gain of Function research.

The Obama admin placed a moratorium on funding gain of function research, it was never outright banned. That distinction is important because it implies intent to resume at some later date. Which they did, the moratorium was lifted while Obama was still in office. Thus, Obama's admin temporarily paused then re-authorized funding of GOF, under new conditions.

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) today lifted a 3-year moratorium on funding gain-of-function (GOF) research on potential pandemic viruses such as avian flu, SARS, and MERS, opening the door for certain types of research to resume.

The pause was to allow time to develop new, safer measures:

In light of controversial research on H5N1 viruses in 2012, the Obama administration in 2014 announced a pause of federally funded GOF research and asked a government advisory group to reevaluate federal GOF funding policies and put together recommendations to help officials make their decisions.

Again, in Obama's final days in office, new guidelines were put forth to allow GOF research to continue under more stringent guidelines.

In January in the final days of the Obama administration, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) released guidance the departments can use to follow through with the reviews.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...t-gain-function-research-pause-offer-guidance

So to say Obama banned it and Trump re-authorized it is flat-out false and misinformation.

In regards to indicting their self, I was referring to someone else, not Fauci. His name escapes me at the moment, but essentially the person they put in charge of investigating the lab leak is also tied to funding GOF in China. So, if one of his science experiments got loose and caused a pandemic, do we really expect him to uncover the truth? Is it not in his best interest to cover it up, if it was a leak? His investigation consisted of asking China if the virus leaked from a lab, they told him no, to which he then concluded his investigation on the basis of 'having no reason to not believe them'.

That's a problem imo.

 

[GTIfan99]

The Obama admin placed a moratorium on funding gain of function research, it was never outright banned. That distinction is important because it implies intent to resume at some later date. Which they did, the moratorium was lifted while Obama was still in office. Thus, Obama's admin temporarily paused then re-authorized funding of GOF, under new conditions.



The pause was to allow time to develop new, safer measures:



Again, in Obama's final days in office, new guidelines were put forth to allow GOF research to continue under more stringent guidelines.



https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...t-gain-function-research-pause-offer-guidance

So to say Obama banned it and Trump re-authorized it is flat-out false and misinformation.

In regards to indicting their self, I was referring to someone else, not Fauci. His name escapes me at the moment, but essentially the person they put in charge of investigating the lab leak is also tied to funding GOF in China. So, if one of his science experiments got loose and caused a pandemic, do we really expect him to uncover the truth? Is it not in his best interest to cover it up, if it was a leak? His investigation consisted of asking China if the virus leaked from a lab, they told him no, to which he then concluded his investigation on the basis of 'having no reason to not believe them'.

That's a problem imo.

My mistake, then, but Trump could have easily halted Gain of Function research any time in the 3 years before the pandemic, if it's so dangerous.

But it's incorrect that the investigation consisted of asking China. They did genetic tracing of the virus. At that time, the virus was traced to southern China.

 

[cb1111]

The Obama admin placed a moratorium on funding gain of function research, it was never outright banned. That distinction is important because it implies intent to resume at some later date. Which they did, the moratorium was lifted while Obama was still in office. Thus, Obama's admin temporarily paused then re-authorized funding of GOF, under new conditions.



The pause was to allow time to develop new, safer measures:



Again, in Obama's final days in office, new guidelines were put forth to allow GOF research to continue under more stringent guidelines.



https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-per...t-gain-function-research-pause-offer-guidance

So to say Obama banned it and Trump re-authorized it is flat-out false and misinformation.

In regards to indicting their self, I was referring to someone else, not Fauci. His name escapes me at the moment, but essentially the person they put in charge of investigating the lab leak is also tied to funding GOF in China. So, if one of his science experiments got loose and caused a pandemic, do we really expect him to uncover the truth? Is it not in his best interest to cover it up, if it was a leak? His investigation consisted of asking China if the virus leaked from a lab, they told him no, to which he then concluded his investigation on the basis of 'having no reason to not believe them'.

That's a problem imo.

yep. Here you go. Gain of Function is widely misunderstood and isn't quite as ominous as it sounds as there are legitimate research reasons.