I would argue against the dogs too. At least kids can help out from time to time.
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The COVID19 SCAMdemic...Keehs Calls Everyone Else Racist - Then Admits He's The CEO
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cb1111
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Right, so lets add up all the taxes that you pay. What would you say is the average income tax rate and what does one pay for National Health?
In the US, the average income tax rate is 24% - so roughly the same as the UK
In the US, the highest sales tax is in California at 7.25% (some areas also have local sales taxes, but that is generally the exception - the absolute highest in some little hick town in Alabama at 13%) - while the UK is effectively 20%. The difference being that VAT is hidden in the price of the product, while it is added on at the register in the US.
Most Americans are covered through some sort of health insurance through their employer and pay $4500 out of pocket (premiums and co-pays) while an unsubsidized person pays about $10,000 per year. The average senior pays $144 a month for Medicare, but one can get "Medicare Advantage" plans that tie you to a specific list of doctors and hospitals and may actually have a zero cost per month. For normally uninsured persons (low income etc.), there is Medicaid or if you don't qualify for that, then there is the "affordable Care Act" that have plans for roughly the same cost as Medicare.
Public hospitals will not turn anyone away based on ability to pay. Private hospitals must treat acute patients and transfer them once stable.
If you end up at a hospital that accepts your insurance (most accept all of the large carriers) then there is a huge difference between the billed charges and the allowed charges - so those $60 socks actually ends up costing the insurance company about $10.
My mom has Medicare and a supplemental insurance for about $50 a month (so $200 total), has had a pacemaker, gallbladder surgery, cataract surgery and a couple of Emergency Room visits with zero additional out of pocket expenses. I pay about $300 a month, have a $20 co-pay per visit and a $6000 catastrophic cap.
Most anyone can get some sort of affordable insurance, but it is easier to bitch and moan about how expensive healthcare is
Only after growing to a useful age.
Plus, if you live with an enabler, growing to a useful age can take a real long time.
6 years old they start helping out.
Damn, what kind of labor camp are you running down there.
Because local and state taxes are mostly regressive, that would make total taxation regressive.
As it is, total taxation is remarkably flat, with the exception of the uber wealthy. They pay much lower rate, even worse when you include the money they hide.
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I know nobody who has paid a single cent for the COViD vaccine. And yes, there are always horror stories about somebody going from hospital to hospital, but you get the same in the UK - or in the EU or anywhere else.
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Wait till #1 hits 3yo... unless she hates herself, that 17 number will fall right the fuck off.
Did you even read his post? lmao
He said 20% VAT, which is essentially sales tax over there. Income tax, like in US, varies by income. And Europeans generally pay plenty of income tax.
Closing loopholes almost always adds others. Just tax the rich, slap taxes back on big corps and be done with this shit. Then we can have better roads, universal healthcare, free (or at least highly subsidized) higher education.
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