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Proper PCV-to-Crankcase breather tube info....

ROH ECHT

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2007 MKV GTI
I find having to post this info numerous times. So I will post it here so anyone can just share a link when trying to explain it in the future.

There are two designs of PCV and two rear breather tubes.
Both PCVs will work with the valved rear tube.
But if you have the open rear tube...you should only use the PCV with a check-valve placed where it recycles vapor through the valve/rocker cover works. I prefer the valved rear tube in case the PCV recycle-passage through the rocker cover should ever become unsealed.

Also....if you have a recycling catch-can or PCV delete plate, you need to pair those with the open rear breather tube so it is always open to the turbo inlet.

The Valved-PCV is meant to be paired with the open rear tube...but it will also work with the valved rear tube (just means there are two valves in the recycle to turbo inlet path).

Valved-PCV pn: 06F 129 101 R
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↑ That PCV (or recycling CatchCan or PCV delete) is paired with vent tube pn: 06F 103 213 N ↓
no valve vent tube.png


This Valveless PCV pn: 06F 129 101 P ↓
pcv no valve.png


↑ is meant to be paired with the valved vent tube pn: 06D 103 215 A↓
06f-103-215-b-_1.jpg
 
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Saki Ashraf

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ROH thanks for posting this very useful info.

I installed a recirculating catch can system about 15K miles ago on my 2007 FSI GTI and never checked this rear breather.

Currently in the middle of a K04 upgrade and went to check that rear tube after reading your post. It is a valved tube. How would this affect operation of the PCV system? While removing the turbo I did notice excessive oil on the turbo inlet housing and backside of motor - could this be a result of having a valved rear tube combined with a catch can?

Thanks for any comments/insight.
 

ROH ECHT

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The valved rear breather tube(RBT) opens when the there is crankcase pressure. When crankcase pressure is low, the valve in the RBT will not be completely open and allows condensation in the crankcase to take more time to evacuate. The oem PCV is designed to switch vapors, to be recycled, over to the intake manifold for the vacuum at low rpms so to remove them. With the connection to the intake manifold removed for a recycling catch-can or PCV delete, the vapors can linger in the engine much longer. With a PCV delete and the valveless RBT, the turbo inlet will draw the vapors out more efficiently. Plus...you never need to worry about the RBT valve sticking shut.

Years ago...many were simply removing the valve from the RBT to avoid buying another. I believe they would cut the center portion out while leaving the outer ring of plastic. in fact, here is one thread/topic on it; https://www.golfmkv.com/forums/inde...er-tube-check-valve-for-bsh-pcv-revamp.55635/
 
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ROH ECHT

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2007 MKV GTI
BUMP...hoping it becomes STICKY!
 
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