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Meat's Brake DIY (w/ thanks to DanGSR)

BAMF

Ready to race!
Location
Jacksonville, FL
First of all, thanks Meat and everyone else who contributed here! I'm about to do my first brake job on this car and this thread has been hugely helpful! That said, I want to make sure I'm fully prepared, I've got a few questions (apologies for the noobery!)

Which bolts are you guys greasing? Just the M14 triple squares? Any bolts that should not be greased or should receive thread locker?

Looking at Autozone I see that CRC also makes a synthetic brake grease (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/ac...ic-grease/_/N-268d?itemIdentifier=826455_0_0_) It's a bit more expensive than the red stuff, but it looks like it can be used on just about any brake parts. It says on the bottle that it can be used on pads with shims... Any reason why I can't use it on the backing plates of our pads?

Are there any downsides to removing the dust shields (besides increased dust, obviously?)

And finally, *just in case,* what is the Vag-com procedure to cycle the ABS? Is it an adaptation channel, or do you simply open the ABS controller and it cycles by default?

Thanks!
 

Natalie

Ready to race!
Location
Madison, WI
Car(s)
2007 GTI
:help::iono:Made one stupid stupid mistake. Piston came out of the front right caliper while trying to screw the rear left piston in to put the carrier back on rotors with new pads. Brake fluid everywhere. Tried pushing piston back in but no luck. Ended up tearing the rubber gasket on the piston. Looks like I can buy the seal to re-build but is the gasket and easy install? Will never make that mistake again... HELP!!!
 

the bruce

Go Kart Champion
Location
land
Car(s)
Golf GTI Mk.V 2008
Natalie, best to take both caliper and piston to a shop. Let them have a look
and then decide about.


Looking at Autozone I see that CRC also makes a synthetic brake grease (http://www.autozone.com/autozone/ac...ic-grease/_/N-268d?itemIdentifier=826455_0_0_) It's a bit more expensive than the red stuff, but it looks like it can be used on just about any brake parts. It says on the bottle that it can be used on pads with shims... Any reason why I can't use it on the backing plates of our pads?
It's heat resistance isn't sufficient as the pads are the hottes parts. When
hot the grease will tear onto pad and rotor. Not what you want.
Get Pagid Ceratec or similar alu/ceramic based paste for the backing plates
and all parts of the calipers that are in contact with the backing plates. The
CRC grease (or similar Ate etc) is fine for the guiding pins (I'd strongly
recommend to use the Tyrol stiffening kit).


Are there any downsides to removing the dust shields (besides increased dust, obviously?)
Almost none. Just inspect ball joints and ABS sensors frequently as they're
exposed to the rotor's heat on track.


And finally, *just in case,* what is the Vag-com procedure to cycle the ABS? Is it an adaptation channel, or do you simply open the ABS controller and it cycles by default?
I does open the ESC/ABS's valves. This is necessary to also bleed the
complete fluid inside the ESC/ABS block. Without this the old fluid will
remain inside that block.


Some helpful threads on improving brakes:


http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=167216

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173192

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=183458

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=164829

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=184064

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175147

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177176
 

pdxa4

Longtime VW/Audi owner
Location
Bay Area, CA
Car(s)
08 GTi,06 Mazda MX-5
Quick question:

How does one remove the rear caliper guide pins so that they can be greased ?

I found this image online
 

Ahernmaster21

New member
Location
Massachusetts
Ok so I may be asking a dumb question but I can't seem to find the answer. I have a 2010 MK6 golf and I am trying to figure out if doing the rear brakes will require me to override the ABS in order to release the brake caliper so that I can replace the rear rotors and pads. I figured I would as before getting all the way to that part and ending up having to be without my car for however long it would take to solve that issue. I have done brakes before but on older cars where everything is pretty standard.. but VW's are a whole other animal.. If anyone has any info they could lend me it would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks
 

GIACUser

Master Wallet Mechanic
Location
SoCal
Ok so I may be asking a dumb question but I can't seem to find the answer. I have a 2010 MK6 golf and I am trying to figure out if doing the rear brakes will require me to override the ABS in order to release the brake caliper so that I can replace the rear rotors and pads. I figured I would as before getting all the way to that part and ending up having to be without my car for however long it would take to solve that issue. I have done brakes before but on older cars where everything is pretty standard.. but VW's are a whole other animal.. If anyone has any info they could lend me it would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks

Cable operated parking brakes = no
Electronic operated parking brakes = yes

I have only seen cable operated on MKV/6 cars but just pull a rear wheel and you will see the cable system.

I have done brakes on my car using this post and it is easy and straightforward even if you had zero experience.
 

Ahernmaster21

New member
Location
Massachusetts
Cable operated parking brakes = no
Electronic operated parking brakes = yes

I have only seen cable operated on MKV/6 cars but just pull a rear wheel and you will see the cable system.

I have done brakes on my car using this post and it is easy and straightforward even if you had zero experience.

Thanks GIACUser,

That makes me feel better. I actually had to replace one of my E-Brake cables last year so now that I know that cable operated doesn't need me to bypass the ABS I can go ahead and save my self paying mad money at a shop. BONUS!!!

Thanks again!
 

GIACUser

Master Wallet Mechanic
Location
SoCal
Thanks GIACUser,

That makes me feel better. I actually had to replace one of my E-Brake cables last year so now that I know that cable operated doesn't need me to bypass the ABS I can go ahead and save my self paying mad money at a shop. BONUS!!!

Thanks again!

Just an FYI, my other car is an Audi sedan with e-brake and I use the Ross - Tech VCSD cable/software to run the procedure that opens and closes the caliper. Its super easy with one of these and it is like the essential tool for any VW Audi owner that like to save money and do their own work / troubleshooting whenever possible.
 

Kpe53

New member
Location
North carolina
Help????

I recently did I brake job on my 07 gti and after doing everything I knew to do properly I still don’t have any pressure in my brake pedal until it almost gets to the floor. I’ve went around and tried to find out what happened to cause this and every video I’ve seen no one replaces the brake fluid like I did (which I thought you always supposed to do.) so I need help to fix this this. I’m what you call a novice when it comes to cars and this is my first project/daily car, so I’m trying to learn and grow from this. Any help would be awesome cause I don’t feel comfortable enough to drive the car the way it is now and being in a pretty busy city means being able to stop when I need to is a most.
 

GIACUser

Master Wallet Mechanic
Location
SoCal
I recently did I brake job on my 07 gti and after doing everything I knew to do properly I still don’t have any pressure in my brake pedal until it almost gets to the floor. I’ve went around and tried to find out what happened to cause this and every video I’ve seen no one replaces the brake fluid like I did (which I thought you always supposed to do.) so I need help to fix this this. I’m what you call a novice when it comes to cars and this is my first project/daily car, so I’m trying to learn and grow from this. Any help would be awesome cause I don’t feel comfortable enough to drive the car the way it is now and being in a pretty busy city means being able to stop when I need to is a most.

Did you bleed the lines? Sounds like you have not done that yet. Need to bleed air out of lines. Look up the many youtube vids on bleeding brakes on VW MKV
 
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