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**Gun Enthusiast Thread**

RjRacing

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Location
Philly
Yup here it is..... house bill 4296.

“(D) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any 1 of the following:

“(i) A threaded barrel.

“(ii) A second pistol grip.

“(iii) A barrel shroud.

“(iv) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

“(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

“(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4269/text

Glock 18 is an full auto and the glock 17 & 19 are version of that pistol...So your G19 and G17 could easily be illegal.

So its never enough, it never going to be one single type of gun.
FYI, the frame, slide and internals are all different between the Glock 17 and 18... I have handled and shot one too :). To the untrained eye they may look similar, but to Glocks defense (and us Glock owners) the gun does not physically share a single major component between the models. On the left rear of the slide there is selector switch which actives the full auto sear, these are not components found on any Semi-auto Glock manufactured. It's not like a AR15 where you can literally drop in a full auto sear box into the lower receiver in about 10sec and it functions like an M4/M16 without any other mods.
 

ronmexico

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Location
Brooklyn
FYI, the frame, slide and internals are all different between the Glock 17 and 18... I have handled and shot one too :). To the untrained eye they may look similar, but to Glocks defense (and us Glock owners) the gun does not physically share a single major component between the models. On the left rear of the slide there is selector switch which actives the full auto sear, these are not components found on any Semi-auto Glock manufactured. It's not like a AR15 where you can literally drop in a full auto sear box into the lower receiver in about 10sec and it functions like an M4/M16 without any other mods.
I agree with you 100% but you are talking about people that are interpreting a law that call magazines clips, that think criminals are going to do a background check for private sales if enacted, and dont truly know the different between automatic and semi automatic. Remember the clip with the "whats a barrel shroud"

So it would not be hard for someone to say, the G17 is based off the G18 despite them being much different. If you ask Bloomberg dont you think he would say the 17 is based of the 18, just to push an agenda...

To me the law is written so that someone could do this is they really pushed it and its just going to take the right circumstance them them to push it.
 

RjRacing

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Location
Philly
couple recent pickups...

Your Sig 226 x-six scandic and Beretta 92 FS Centennial are jaw dropping guns! Is that your Beretta thats listed on GlockTalk forums for sale right now?

I agree with you 100% but you are talking about people that are interpreting a law that call magazines clips, that think criminals are going to do a background check for private sales if enacted, and dont truly know the different between automatic and semi automatic. Remember the clip with the "whats a barrel shroud"

So it would not be hard for someone to say, the G17 is based off the G18 despite them being much different. If you ask Bloomberg dont you think he would say the 17 is based of the 18, just to push an agenda...

To me the law is written so that someone could do this is they really pushed it and its just going to take the right circumstance them them to push it.
I gotcha. Nice suppressor and AR collection too BTW :). 223 and 308 suppressors are next on my list.
 

PGT

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NoVA
I'm not on GlockTalk so not sure but just brought the Centennial home this past week. Beretta was running a major discount on them to clear out remaining inventory in 2015 so I jumped at the chance (sold an Elcan SpecterDS to fund it).
 

ronmexico

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Location
Brooklyn
Just bought 2 new cans (Silencerco Omega 9 & AAC 556 SD) and a Noveske Stripped lower all to register since the ATF is passing 41P and F'ing the NAF Trust. Wanted to get these in before the rule changes since this will most likely be my last NFA purchase.

Thanks Obama and ATF going after the most responsible gun owners (2 crimes committed with NFA items in 84 years)
 

ronmexico

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Location
Brooklyn
Let's keep this thread on guns specifically...
Sorry man, but theres going to be some politics mixed in on this thread. Guns are a hot issues these days and people are dug in on both sides, cant really have a gun enthusiast thread without some politics, just need it to stay respectful. Just about every gun thread in the country has some opinions in it especially after last week ie. http://www.golfmk6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49914&page=128 So as a gun enthusiast I am a but upset by the ATF and the justice departments rule changes and I think its fair to voice my frustration respectfully in a gun thread. There were changed made to the law that effect gun owners I think we respectively can discuss how we feel about them. Im not saying it should turn into a tit for tat, your right this is a gun enthusiast thread and it should mostly stay that way, but there were just some changes made and we should feel we cant post about them and voice some frustration if your frustrated.
 
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BravoMike

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Location
Indianapolis
Just bought 2 new cans (Silencerco Omega 9 & AAC 556 SD) and a Noveske Stripped lower all to register since the ATF is passing 41P and F'ing the NAF Trust. Wanted to get these in before the rule changes since this will most likely be my last NFA purchase.

Thanks Obama and ATF going after the most responsible gun owners (2 crimes committed with NFA items in 84 years)
Thanks to Obummer, he has convinced me to finally buy a suppressor. I'm going to go the trust route regardless. One of my good friends just went the other route, but fortunately for us, our CLEO is an ardent 2A supporter.

I'm talking to an attorney on Monday and to top it off, I'm eligible for the SPEQ discount offered by Sinlencerco.
 
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ronmexico

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Location
Brooklyn
Thanks to Obummer, he has convinced me to finally buy a suppressor. I'm going to go the trust route regardless. One of my good friends just went the other route, but fortunately for us, our CLEO is an ardent 2A supporter.

I'm talking to an attorney on Monday and to top it off, I'm eligible for the SPEQ discount offered by Sinlencerco.
Good for you. Trust is the way to go, just for the fact that if you have a wife or family they can be in legal possession of the NFA item if they are on the trust. Its going to be more of a pain with the trust (basically a double background check + photos and fingerprints for everyone on the trust) but its worth it.

Silencerco just launched the Hybrid, if you are going to only go with one can this might be a good option. http://www.capitolarmory.com/silencerco-hybrid-multicaliber-suppressor.html
 

2015WhiteGTI

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Nice thread! I don't have any pics, but a couple of interesting pieces I have in my safe.
Sears bolt-action 12 gauge
Browning Auto 5 Light Twelve (made in Belgium)
Winchester Model 88 .308
Marlin 30-30 (first hunting rifle given to me by my father)
Remington .22LR bolt-action
Smith & Wesson .44 magnum Pre 29 model from 1957
 

PGT

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Location
NoVA
I picked up a polished stainless CZ 75B yesterday....another in my "cartel gun" collection. LOL. Also picked up a beat surplus Beretta 81....this one I'll be refinishing.
 
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