Gulfer said:Its all a scam, this shit in the face of this new push to use E85, what a crock. I wonder what the message the oil companies are trying to give us is? "Gas is expensive, shit, so you better conserve and use E85". This is being done because of course E85 only serves to extend the life expectancy of oil companies, rather then letter ppl thinking about real alternatives such as hydrogen... oh well.. gas prices/politics have always been a big scam by the oil companies, and people in this country are just too stupid to see it. atleast bush and friends make some cash on the side, so everything is ok.
the fact is, the profits oil companies make from the sale of gas is a drop in the bucket compared to the profits made from other sectors. oil companies make their money in the exploration, extraction, and refining of oil, and because oil futures are so high right now, oil is worth more, so everyone wants to extract as much oil out of the ground as possible. it also should be noted that its not the companies themselves that set gas prices...its the people RUNNING the gas station.earthtoandy said:Something really needs to be done about this crap. When an oil company nets 100 billion in a quarter with 10 billion of that being profit, in ONE quarter.... there is something seriously wrong. Gas is a nessecity of our civilization and the fact it goes unchecked as it does is ridiculous
It is a necessity, but one that is an unhealthy reliance. More money should be spent on research into alternatives.earthtoandy said:Something really needs to be done about this crap. When an oil company nets 100 billion in a quarter with 10 billion of that being profit, in ONE quarter.... there is something seriously wrong. Gas is a nessecity of our civilization and the fact it goes unchecked as it does is ridiculous
+2bilbos said:It is a necessity, but one that is an unhealthy reliance. More money should be spent on research into alternatives.
A41.8QTM said:I have to laugh at everyone getting all worked up over the price of gas here in the US. You do realize that we have some of the cheapest gas prices in the world, right? The amount of government support to the oil industry in this country is approaching criminal IMHO. I'd be happy to see gas go to 10$ per gallon. Maybe then people would start to evaluate the importance of having a Hummer that gets 12 miles/gallon. Most people in this country could use a little more exercise anyway. We're the fatest, most gluttonous, most wasteful people in the world...it's no wonder half the world hates us.
No doubt these things are big problems, but nothing will ever get done until significant resources are applied. We have to start somewhere and given the long time it takes to develop various technologies, we'd better start soon.andrewt said:i think we're making decent progress in alternative fuels. the new hybrids may not be great, but its encouraging that some of the cutting edge car companies are actually trying. they'll no doubt get better and better.
if you're hoping for a breakthrough technology like hydrogen power or the like, it may be a while. i'm sure there are people working on it, but its not like just throwing money at the problem is going to magically solve the problem. trying to make things like cold fusion and hydrogen power are huge undertakings, it will simply take time, and it WILL just be a matter of time before they come up with a material or process breakthrough. nuclear power, the gasoline engine, and the steam engine, wasn't invented overnight, and neither will these technologies.
of course i'm sure i'm stating the obvious here, but the problem with developing these technologies is that they require capital, with very little short term return on the investment. what profit-making company is going to do that? companies are formed to make money, pure and simple. until we become a communist state, its going to stay that way.
i agree. i dont think private companies are going to be willing to sink the capital required into producing alternative fuel methods, especially not when there's supposed to be enough oil for 80 years or something like that.Teknophreak said:Given the global impact and massive size of the problem, we can't leave it up to private business to solve the problem. Nations will have to come together for the common good...damn, we're screwed. :drinking: