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2020 GTI mk8

Carlosfandang0

Drag Racing Champion
Location
UK
Ride
2016 3Dr GTi DSG CSG
We go through this with every new generation - a crapload of people cry "EWWWWW!" and hate the new design - until the final product sees the light of day, then they see it in the flesh, and it's suddenly at least "ok" or more likely, they actually like it. I strongly suspect this will happen all over again.

The problem I have with the Mk8 is the interior. It's a disaster. Touch & slider controls everywhere - which have already been widely rejected by customers globally.
The new 2020 Audi RS6 has touch controls and the general consensus appears to be that they are ok, but I’ve heard at least one review where they mention having to search for a particular button and while doing so weren’t looking at the road!!!, I think this is the issue, the buttons themselves and the way they function are fine, but mix that in with having to drive and it suddenly doesn’t work so well!
 

dosjockey

Go Kart Champion
Location
South
The new 2020 Audi RS6 has touch controls and the general consensus appears to be that they are ok, but I’ve heard at least one review where they mention having to search for a particular button and while doing so weren’t looking at the road!!!, I think this is the issue, the buttons themselves and the way they function are fine, but mix that in with having to drive and it suddenly doesn’t work so well!
This has been a huge problem that everyone wants to ignore.

Infotainment screens that control everyday functions beyond media are a stupid idea. Touch screens that handle frequently adjusted features don't belong in normal cars.

Elon can put whatever he likes in a Tesla; that car drives itself. It's a terrible idea to go slapping that crap in much else, though.

We've had a century to figure out where to place buttons in cars, and once we landed on the standard, it stayed that way for a reason. We could have put fan speed controllers in glove boxes, CD players in the floor... We didn't, though. What you reach for in a properly laid out interior is always where it needs to be, and requires very little study to learn.

That's not possible with touch screens. The people that design this crap need to be put in a Quake III tournament and then asked to navigate a phone tree that doesn't have voice recognition at the same time.

When they fail, toss them a flip phone and watch it all work fine.

Screens are cheap, and people are stupid. That's why we have them controlling all this stuff. It has absolutely nothing to do with improved function, and manufacturers need to hear from the intelligent minority, because the vocal majority is allowing this crap to happen.
 

KevinC

Autocross Newbie
This has been a huge problem that everyone wants to ignore.
Case in point: My buddy's wife has a Volvo XC90 or whatever their foofy SUV is called. They moved to Vegas about a year after first buying it in Miami. I was out there visiting and wifey was driving us someplace in triple-digit temps, and she couldn't figure out how to get the AC turned on - this after owning it for a YEAR, and in Miami before Vegas, meaning she'd dealt with heat before. So I started paying attention to what kind of fiddling was going on in an attempt to get it running, and it was shockingly non-intuitive and ridiculously over-complicated. She also had given up on stuff like the factor nav because it was just to complicated to use.

The Mk8 Golf is loaded with this kind of "tech". My guess is they designed this stuff in 5 years ago when they first started the Mk8 design, then in the meantime automakers started backing away from this stuff due to customer backlash, but VW was already committed and nobody wanted to go back and revise it. From what I've seen in reviews where the infotainment was operated and other controls are demonstrated, it's a complete disaster. Even the headlight switch is an over-complicated joke. Prediction: Customers will hate this stuff from Day 1, and they'll trot out a facelift edition that corrects this stuff. Too late for the early adopters though.
 

SRGTD

Go Kart Newbie
Location
UK
I agree 100% with the anti-touchscreen comments. How can using a touchscreen to adjust a basic function that’s buried deep in a touchscreen sub menu be any less distracting for the driver than it would be to use a hand held mobile / cell phone while driving? And using a hand held phone while driving is illegal in the UK and other countries 🤔. IMO, cheapening out and using cheap touchscreens is a case of car manufacturers putting cost cutting well ahead of driver/passenger/other road user’s safety.

If the Golf’s headlamp touchpad switch is considered bad (IMO it is), then the one in the mk8 Golf’s ‘brother’ - the new Seat Leon - is terrible. Exactly the same stupid, cheap touchpad is used in the Leon, but it’s positioned low down on the dashboard, out of the driver’s line of sight. So if you needed to turn on the fog lights because of poor visibility, you could inadvertently turn the headlights off (unless there’s some clever way to prevent this happening, which is unlikely) unless you’re looking at the touchpad, rather than the road ahead. Terrible design failure!
 

sandmangti

Go Kart Newbie
MK8 comments just after 9 min in if you want to skip. To those who say people complained about MK5, MK6, MK7 when new but liked in time. Maybe this time we will not.

 

sandmangti

Go Kart Newbie
If I was getting an MK8 I think the best looking this time might be the R. Would have to upgrade.
Might be a good time before electric stuff comes in.
 

dosjockey

Go Kart Champion
Location
South
Reminds me of the HONDA EV concept I saw at Goodwood festival of speed last year (which will probably be cancelled this year😔)
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...and the MK8 should have been similar to that. Smoother; not complicated with additional lines the vehicle's real estate can't justify.

Take what it has and make it work. Don't add. Subtract. Styling informs the perception of performance, and they've over-styled the car.

This Honda is an example of taking things in the other direction, and it works.
 

bentin

Go Kart Newbie
Location
Austin, TX
Ride
2018 GTI SE
Yeah, I'd buy a Honda e in a second. Other forbidden fruit I'd actually buy if available here.
Alpina 110s
Audi RS3 hatch (with a manual, but I think that's dead globally now)
SEAT Cupra R
VW Polo GTI
Focus ST
Fiesta ST
 
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