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2019 FORMULA 1 SEASON

95gto

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"Bring back the ***** V12's"

Agreed man, agreed.
Lucky Lewis with another win lol.
They seriously are the luckiest team on the grid.
I mean, you definitely have to be in the right place at the right time, and there is no denying that more often than not, they are.
But still lol.
Hard to be a Ferrari fan right about now.
Best quote of the year. And I would say now is way better time to be a Ferrari fan than before the summer break. The floor and nose changes seem to have fixed their aero/tire woes, so we should see real battles for the remainder of the season.

As for Vettel, I can't help but think he was pushing his car harder than the team wanted and that it could have contributed to the MGUK failure. When you consider the team told Leclerc to push and he was still losing time to Vettel and running in clean air, either Seb was just in beast mode or his car was in a high output setting.
 

vbrad26

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St. Petersburg FL
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'15 CSG GTI 2DR 6SP
And I would say now is way better time to be a Ferrari fan than before the summer break.

Oh for sure, but not out of the woods yet lol.
Part of what I was getting at is the team orders though.
I understand their logic behind it but I just wish they'd let them race.

Yeah LEC got pole but he lost it with VET's great start...and he started pulling further away.
It would make no sense to swap drivers at that point, agreement or not.

VET must have thought so too when he told the engineers that LEC needed to close the gap first.
 

CarlosCanizares

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It would make no sense to swap drivers at that point, agreement or not.

VET must have thought so too when he told the engineers that LEC needed to close the gap first.
I completely agree with Seb 100%. I'm sure Charles knew the swap would've put them in danger with Lewis not far behind, but his emotions got in the way. The agreement muddied the waters, tbh.

Seb has the experience that Charles doesn't and can see past his emotions.
 

vbrad26

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St. Petersburg FL
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'15 CSG GTI 2DR 6SP
Besides VET played the support role for LEC in the past. That coin has 2 sides.

Sometimes you just gotta do it for the team.
I understand that every single guy out there wants to finish 1st.
But you gotta find your way up there in order to do so.

And I don't think LEC had it in him this time.

Don't get me wrong I have always been a fan of his, and I do think he is the future of Ferrari.

But VET is still a top driver, just sitting in a car that doesn't fully suit his driving style...
 

95gto

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Imagine IF his MGU-K hadn't popped, it would've been similar to Multi-21 all over again LOL.
Part of me wonders if Vettel didn't push his car too hard trying to build a gap on Leclerc, contributing to the MGU-K failure. It was odd that the team told Leclerc to push and Vettel was still gaining time on him.
 

hans611

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Part of me wonders if Vettel didn't push his car too hard trying to build a gap on Leclerc, contributing to the MGU-K failure. It was odd that the team told Leclerc to push and Vettel was still gaining time on him.
Seb has had the faster car pretty much on all Sundays, his racecraft is better... Charles has good one lap pace on Saturday but his race pace needs work... comes with experience.
 

Shane_Anigans

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Lucky Lewis with another win lol.
They seriously are the luckiest team on the grid.

"I'm a big believer in luck. I find the more I practice, the luckier I am."


-Some football coach, probably



Seriously though, how is consistently running at the front of the grid considered "lucky?" Lucky would be a 1-2 Williams finish after every other car on the grid suffers a mechanical failure.
 

95gto

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Seb has had the faster car pretty much on all Sundays, his racecraft is better... Charles has good one lap pace on Saturday but his race pace needs work... comes with experience.
Racecraft aside, Vettel and Leclerc are nearly even in terms of besting one another. Vettel has finished ahead of Leclerc 9 times and Leclerc has bested Seb 7 times; and that is with Leclerc having two NC's to Vettel's one.

If Vettel has the faster car it isn't very evident. And if you go on championship points alone it would actually say the opposite.
 

vbrad26

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'15 CSG GTI 2DR 6SP
"I'm a big believer in luck. I find the more I practice, the luckier I am."

-Some football coach, probably

Seriously though, how is consistently running at the front of the grid considered "lucky?" Lucky would be a 1-2 Williams finish after every other car on the grid suffers a mechanical failure.

You forgot the rest of that I said:


I mean, you definitely have to be in the right place at the right time, and there is no denying that more often than not, they are....

I'm not saying they are lucky to be front runners. They for sure earn their spots by being the fastest most of the time. There is no luck in that.
But they didn't have the faster car on that Sunday, however, they were still right there when Ferrari went to shit.
Call it what you want.
I mean there is something to be said about making your own luck, and they did just that, and capitalized on Ferrari's misfortunes.
But to put it simply, yes, they got lucky with Sebs Ferrari breaking down and some VSC timing.
 

hans611

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Racecraft aside, Vettel and Leclerc are nearly even in terms of besting one another. Vettel has finished ahead of Leclerc 9 times and Leclerc has bested Seb 7 times; and that is with Leclerc having two NC's to Vettel's one.

If Vettel has the faster car it isn't very evident. And if you go on championship points alone it would actually say the opposite.

If you look at race pace simulations done on Friday Practice, Vettel usually has the fasted average laps... same in the races on Sunday.. the F1 reddit is where you can find all that data, there is no denying that Vettel overall has a better race pace.... I wasnt necessarily talking about results...
 

95gto

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If you look at race pace simulations done on Friday Practice, Vettel usually has the fasted average laps... same in the races on Sunday.. the F1 reddit is where you can find all that data, there is no denying that Vettel overall has a better race pace.... I wasnt necessarily talking about results...
That begs an interesting question though, why don't the results track with the data?
 

Crild

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Florida
You'd think they would of changed the schedule years ago as a typhoon hits literally every year during the gp...........
 

95gto

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So now we have to see if/when Lewis wins his sixth title and if Vettel will outscore Leclerc before the end of the season.
 
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