Just to clarify, this problem came into being seemingly after WMI install?
If so, can you post up a diagram of your WMI plumbing/assembly/specs?
Just one more question about WM. If you disable the WM does it make any difference in how the car runs?
Timing knock correction with and without WM?
Column1 | Column2 | Column3 | Column4 | Column5 | Column6 | Column7 | Column8 | Column9 | Column10 | Column11 |
Group A: | '020 | Group B: | '115 | |||||||
Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Engine Speed | Engine Load | Boost Pressure | Boost Pressure | |||
TIME | Cylinder 1 | Cylinder 2 | Cylinder 3 | Cylinder 4 | TIME | (G28) | (specified) | (actual) | ||
Marker | STAMP | °KW | °KW | °KW | °KW | STAMP | /min | % | mbar | mbar |
0.18 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.05 | 1960 | 54.1 | 1680 | 1040 | |
0.43 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.31 | 2000 | 72.9 | 1920 | 1080 | |
0.68 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.56 | 2040 | 73.7 | 1960 | 1140 | |
0.93 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.81 | 2120 | 76.7 | 2010 | 1180 | |
1.17 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.06 | 2200 | 80.5 | 2070 | 1230 | |
1.43 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.3 | 2280 | 83.5 | 2110 | 1280 | |
1.68 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.55 | 2360 | 87.2 | 2190 | 1330 | |
1.93 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.8 | 2440 | 92.5 | 2230 | 1390 | |
2.18 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.05 | 2520 | 97 | 2260 | 1460 | |
2.43 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.3 | 2640 | 103.8 | 2220 | 1520 | |
2.68 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.55 | 2720 | 112.8 | 2170 | 1620 | |
2.93 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2.8 | 2880 | 124.8 | 2170 | 1760 | |
3.18 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.05 | 2960 | 138.3 | 2250 | 1950 | |
3.44 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.3 | 3120 | 154.1 | 2300 | 2110 | |
3.69 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.57 | 3280 | 162.4 | 2410 | 2210 | |
3.94 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3.82 | 3440 | 169.2 | 2480 | 2290 | |
4.19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 4.07 | 3560 | 177.4 | 2530 | 2400 | |
4.44 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 4.32 | 3720 | 185.7 | 2540 | 2460 | |
4.7 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 4.57 | 3880 | 191 | 2540 | 2490 | |
4.94 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 4.82 | 4040 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2500 | |
5.19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 5.07 | 4200 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2500 | |
5.44 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 5.32 | 4360 | 191.7 | 2550 | 2500 | |
5.69 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 5.57 | 4520 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2480 | |
5.94 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 5.82 | 4720 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2490 | |
6.19 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -2.3 | 6.07 | 4880 | 191.7 | 2530 | 2500 | |
6.46 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1.5 | 6.32 | 5040 | 191.7 | 2520 | 2520 | |
6.71 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1.5 | 6.58 | 5160 | 191.7 | 2500 | 2540 | |
6.96 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1.5 | 6.83 | 5320 | 191.7 | 2490 | 2540 | |
7.21 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -1.5 | 7.08 | 5440 | 191.7 | 2470 | 2460 | |
7.46 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.8 | 7.33 | 5600 | 191.7 | 2460 | 2390 | |
7.71 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.8 | 7.59 | 5720 | 191.7 | 2440 | 2410 | |
7.96 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.8 | 7.83 | 5840 | 191.7 | 2430 | 2450 | |
8.21 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.8 | 8.08 | 5960 | 191.7 | 2410 | 2450 | |
8.46 | 0 | 0 | 0 | -0.8 | 8.33 | 6080 | 191.7 | 1580 | 2410 | |
8.71 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.59 | 6040 | 47.4 | 660 | 2040 | |
8.96 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.84 | 6040 | 22.6 | 370 | 1400 | |
9.21 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.08 | 6000 | 16.5 | 330 | 1260 | |
9.49 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.33 | 5960 | 17.3 | 330 | 1190 |
Column1 | Column2 | Column3 | Column4 | Column5 | Column6 | Column7 | Column8 | Column9 | Column10 | Column11 | Column12 | Column13 |
Group A: | '020 | Group B: | '115 | Group C: | Not Running | |||||||
Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Engine Speed | Engine Load | Boost Pressure | Boost Pressure | |||||
TIME | Cylinder 1 | Cylinder 2 | Cylinder 3 | Cylinder 4 | TIME | (G28) | (specified) | (actual) | TIME | |||
Marker | STAMP | °KW | °KW | °KW | °KW | STAMP | /min | % | mbar | mbar | STAMP | |
0.24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.11 | 2160 | 76.7 | 2120 | 1200 | |||
0.48 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.36 | 2240 | 81.2 | 2150 | 1250 | |||
0.74 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.61 | 2320 | 84.2 | 2160 | 1300 | |||
0.98 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.86 | 2400 | 88.7 | 2190 | 1350 | |||
1.23 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.11 | 2480 | 93.2 | 2200 | 1410 | |||
1.49 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.36 | 2600 | 97.7 | 2220 | 1470 | |||
1.74 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.61 | 2680 | 104.5 | 2150 | 1530 | |||
1.99 | 0 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 1.86 | 2800 | 113.5 | 2190 | 1640 | |||
2.23 | 0 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 2.11 | 2920 | 125.6 | 2210 | 1790 | |||
2.49 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 2.36 | 3080 | 139.8 | 2250 | 1970 | |||
2.74 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 2.61 | 3200 | 153.4 | 2300 | 2130 | |||
2.99 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 2.86 | 3360 | 160.2 | 2390 | 2200 | |||
3.24 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 3.11 | 3520 | 166.9 | 2410 | 2290 | |||
3.48 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 3.36 | 3680 | 175.9 | 2540 | 2370 | |||
3.75 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 3.61 | 3880 | 182.7 | 2540 | 2420 | |||
4 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 3.87 | 4040 | 185.7 | 2540 | 2450 | |||
4.26 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 4.12 | 4200 | 188 | 2540 | 2460 | |||
4.5 | 0 | -3 | -3 | -3 | 4.38 | 4360 | 188 | 2540 | 2480 | |||
4.75 | -3 | -3 | -2.3 | -2.3 | 4.63 | 4520 | 188.7 | 2540 | 2480 | |||
5 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 4.87 | 4720 | 190.2 | 2540 | 2490 | |||
5.25 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 5.13 | 4880 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2480 | |||
5.5 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 5.38 | 5040 | 191.7 | 2540 | 2500 | |||
5.75 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 5.62 | 5200 | 191.7 | 2520 | 2520 | |||
6 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 5.87 | 5320 | 191.7 | 2510 | 2520 | |||
6.25 | 0 | -3 | 0 | 0 | 6.13 | 5520 | 191.7 | 2480 | 2460 | |||
6.5 | 0 | -2.3 | 0 | 0 | 6.37 | 5640 | 191.7 | 2380 | 2430 | |||
6.76 | 0 | -2.3 | 0 | 0 | 6.62 | 5760 | 191.7 | 2280 | 2370 | |||
7.01 | 0 | -2.3 | 0 | 0 | 6.89 | 5960 | 185.7 | 2200 | 2270 | |||
7.27 | 0 | -2.3 | 0 | 0 | 7.14 | 6040 | 175.9 | 2100 | 2140 | |||
7.52 | 0 | -1.5 | 0 | 0 | 7.4 | 6160 | 166.9 | 2110 | 2040 | |||
7.77 | 0 | -1.5 | 0 | 0 | 7.64 | 6320 | 164.7 | 2160 | 2020 |
Column1 | Column2 | Column3 | Column4 | Column5 | Column6 | Column7 | Column8 | Column9 | Column10 | Column11 | Column12 | Column13 |
Group A: | '020 | Group B: | '115 | Group C: | Not Running | |||||||
Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Timing Retardation | Engine Speed | Engine Load | Boost Pressure | Boost Pressure | |||||
TIME | Cylinder 1 | Cylinder 2 | Cylinder 3 | Cylinder 4 | TIME | (G28) | (specified) | (actual) | TIME | |||
Marker | STAMP | °KW | °KW | °KW | °KW | STAMP | /min | % | mbar | mbar | STAMP | |
0.07 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.19 | 2240 | 80.5 | 2130 | 1270 | |||
0.32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.44 | 2320 | 85.7 | 2150 | 1310 | |||
0.57 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.69 | 2440 | 89.5 | 2160 | 1370 | |||
0.82 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.94 | 2520 | 94 | 2170 | 1420 | |||
1.07 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.18 | 2600 | 98.5 | 2200 | 1480 | |||
1.32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1.44 | 2720 | 106.8 | 2150 | 1550 | |||
1.57 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 1.69 | 2840 | 115.8 | 2200 | 1660 | |||
1.82 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 1.94 | 2960 | 129.3 | 2230 | 1840 | |||
2.07 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 2.19 | 3080 | 145.9 | 2280 | 2050 | |||
2.31 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 2.44 | 3240 | 155.6 | 2320 | 2140 | |||
2.57 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 2.69 | 3440 | 161.7 | 2380 | 2220 | |||
2.81 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 2.95 | 3600 | 167.7 | 2420 | 2260 | |||
3.08 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 3.2 | 3720 | 172.2 | 2480 | 2310 | |||
3.33 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 3.46 | 3880 | 179.7 | 2540 | 2380 | |||
3.58 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 3.7 | 4080 | 185.7 | 2540 | 2440 | |||
3.83 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 3.96 | 4240 | 188.7 | 2550 | 2460 | |||
4.08 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 4.2 | 4440 | 189.5 | 2540 | 2470 | |||
4.33 | -3 | 0 | -3 | -3 | 4.46 | 4640 | 190.2 | 2540 | 2470 | |||
4.59 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.7 | 4840 | 191.7 | 2530 | 2480 | |||
4.83 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4.96 | 5000 | 191.7 | 2530 | 2490 | |||
5.08 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5.21 | 5120 | 191.7 | 2530 | 2490 | |||
5.33 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5.45 | 5240 | 191.7 | 2520 | 2500 | |||
5.58 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5.7 | 5440 | 191.7 | 2500 | 2470 | |||
5.83 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5.97 | 5560 | 191.7 | 2480 | 2450 | |||
6.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6.22 | 5720 | 191.7 | 2450 | 2440 | |||
6.35 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6.47 | 5880 | 191.7 | 2430 | 2430 | |||
6.6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6.72 | 6000 | 191.7 | 2410 | 2390 | |||
6.85 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6.97 | 6160 | 191.7 | 2400 | 2360 | |||
7.1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.22 | 6280 | 191.7 | 2390 | 2350 | |||
7.34 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.47 | 6440 | 191.7 | 2380 | 2330 | |||
7.59 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7.72 | 6520 | 191.7 | 1820 | 2320 | |||
8.37 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.24 | 6520 | 25.6 | 420 | 1460 | |||
8.61 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.49 | 6440 | 16.5 | 330 | 1280 | |||
8.86 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.74 | 6400 | 17.3 | 330 | 1210 | |||
9.11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8.99 | 6360 | 17.3 | 330 | 1190 | |||
9.36 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.24 | 5720 | 18 | 330 | 1150 | |||
9.61 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.49 | 5160 | 18 | 340 | 1140 | |||
9.86 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.74 | 4640 | 16.5 | 330 | 1110 | |||
10.11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 9.99 | 4120 | 17.3 | 330 | 1100 | |||
10.36 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10.24 | 3680 | 17.3 | 340 | 1100 | |||
10.61 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10.49 | 3200 | 16.5 | 340 | 1090 | |||
10.87 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10.73 | 2800 | 16.5 | 330 | 1090 | |||
11.11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10.99 | 2360 | 16.5 | 320 | 1070 | |||
11.36 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11.24 | 1960 | 16.5 | 300 | 1050 | |||
11.61 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11.49 | 1600 | 16.5 | 290 | 1070 | |||
11.88 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 11.74 | 1360 | 16.5 | 350 | 1040 |
Couple more questions and a comment. Comment - based on the plumbing diagram (from the manual), I am assuming your actual plumbing mirrors that which means that part should be ok.
I'm using the medium nozzle which is 500 cc/min, kit came with 3 different sized jets: small(250 cc/min), medium(500 cc/min), large(1000 cc/min)Questions
1. What size jet are you spraying?
2. I tried to look up the config and placement of jet on pipe you are using. Does it spray right before (very close and opposite) the MAP sensor?
3. When you installed your WMI, did you go through any procedure to dial it in?
Looking at your T7 log I am concerned you have not dialed it in. Looks like not enough spray midrange and my guess is that you are over spraying up top which will decrease power but give you zero knock.
4. This Revo tune with the T7 setting requires what octane fuel? What octane fuel do you have in tank? What are you using for WM mix?
What are you using for WMI? For example I used 50% Methanol / 50% distilled water by volume. Methanol I used was VPRacing M1. '
I can safely say that you need to dial in your WMI and doing so will definitely improve your overall performance with the T7 setting. Since you are running a 93 tune with 93 in the tank you won't need a lot of WM to allow you to run the advanced timing. 500cc is about what I used on my K04 setup to run a 100oct tune with only 91oct in my tank with zero timing loss. (336whp/335ftlb)