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Hilary or Trump (and why?)

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lostk

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Where do you live LostK? That you know so much about the UK post Brexit?

If you live in the UK than you can kindly leave this discussion as you have no place in American Presidential Politics.

dont live in the uk...but even if i did u can stfu bc that didnt stop trump from supporting it
 

lilonespaz

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dont live in the uk...but even if i did u can stfu bc that didnt stop trump from supporting it

So because trump supports something its now instantly bad?

Dude you're a joke blindly follow you party line and continue to live your life. Leave grown up stuff to the big boys.

You're the only person thats making this forum a big Sh*t Show. It was civilized until you came in here attacking everyone.


I have family that live in the UK and they couldnt be happier to be out of the EU.
 

thewalkingdad

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dont live in the uk...but even if i did u can stfu bc that didnt stop trump from supporting it

I still don't see your issue with the brexit (nor calling into question the relevance of where I live). This has been a non-issue that you're somehow blowing up like someone just killed your dog, pissed in your cheerios, and pooped in your dryer with a fresh cycle.

Neither the UK or the EU have imploded because of the brexit. Britons wanted more control over their country, so what? I wouldn't want NATO determining the speed limits in my country, why would the UK want the EU mucking around with theirs?

And who cares if a US politician takes a position on foreign matters? Obama was against it, Trump was for it. What does it matter? If Piers Morgan can have an opinion on our elections, I can have an opinion on theirs.
 

lostk

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So because trump supports something its now instantly bad?

Dude you're a joke blindly follow you party line and continue to live your life. Leave grown up stuff to the big boys.

You're the only person thats making this forum a big Sh*t Show. It was civilized until you came in here attacking everyone.


I have family that live in the UK and they couldnt be happier to be out of the EU.

how many poles and romanians did ur family assault post-breixit?
 

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Brexit was smart, a Dollar-exit will be next.
 

brobst

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The only impact this election will have is foreign politics and supreme court justice. Congress can't push legislation to save its life, and the senate certainly won't agree.

Sent from phone Tapa
 

sterkrazzy

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I guess I will say if I absolutely had to vote for 1 of the 2 it would be Hillary...even with as much as I hate her and how much I think she shouldn't even be allowed to run for pres. I'm more worried about Rick Scott getting into bed with Trump and somehow making things worse than they are for Florida. This water situation is a fucking mess and it's clear Rick Scott doesn't want to fix it at all, he just couldn't give a shit. He's too worried about his pockets and what certain major land owners might do if he turns against them. Now Rick Scott is endorsing Trump, and you never know wtf could happen when Scott asks him to return the favor...but then with Hillary we've got a corrupt president and a corrupt governor, so that'll be fun.....

Looking at the very dimly bright side, Hillary has a lot more experience and at least we'll get more Bill.
 

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That's great and I'd be proud of it except lostk is painting every other party as hating, bigoted groups which is far from the truth. Throwing out random links from known liberal media outlets nitpicking on very specific things.

I'm not a democrat nor a republican. I'm registered as a libertarian at this very moment. I don't vote by party rather the person who is actually running. The thing about these parties is the majority who identify as a democrat or a republican while blindly vote for their own party with their eyes and ears closed even if the person running is the devil.
Talk about painting people with a false brush... Who's doing it now? :rolleyes:

The actual majority of both democrats and republicans are quiet, intelligent people; your stereotyping aside most of them have a real problem with this election just as you do...

That's exactly how I've always viewed it. I really don't care what party you belong to. I'm going to look at the candidates as an individual, not a rep or a dem, and I'm going to vote for them, or not vote for them, based on their actions and what they say.

The problem with this is you are not supporting an individual, you are supporting a party platform with your vote.

You (in general terms) may not like Clinton but a vote for her supports the overall democratic platform; which is well over 100 years ahead of the republican one...

A vote for Trump is not just "kicking established politics," is is also a vote in support of the Republican platform of hate, bigotry, and twisted "christian" values forced into government. None of those are supportable by anyone who actually believes in the constitution...
 

steemax

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Talk about painting people with a false brush... Who's doing it now? :rolleyes:

The actual majority of both democrats and republicans are quiet, intelligent people; your stereotyping aside most of them have a real problem with this election just as you do...



The problem with this is you are not supporting an individual, you are supporting a party platform with your vote.

You (in general terms) may not like Clinton but a vote for her supports the overall democratic platform; which is well over 100 years ahead of the republican one...

A vote for Trump is not just "kicking established politics," is is also a vote in support of the Republican platform of hate, bigotry, and twisted "christian" values forced into government. None of those are supportable by anyone who actually believes in the constitution...

I named a single person whose actually doing it, didn't call an entire group as a name.
 

bart2278

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"Forget the politicians. The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice . . . you don’t. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land. They own, and control the corporations. They’ve long since bought, and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls, they got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear. They got you by the balls. They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying . . . lobbying, to get what they want . . .

Well, we know what they want. They want more for themselves and less for everybody else, but I’ll tell you what they don’t want . . . they don’t want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don’t want well informed, well educated people capable of critical thinking. They’re not interested in that . . . that doesn’t help them. That’s against their interests. That’s right. They don’t want people who are smart enough to sit around a kitchen table and think about how badly they’re getting fucked by a system that threw them overboard 30 fuckin' years ago. They don’t want that.

You know what they want? They want obedient workers . . . Obedient workers, people who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork. And just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime and vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it, and now they’re coming for your Social Security money. They want your fuckin' retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street, and you know something? They’ll get it . . . they’ll get it all from you sooner or later cause they own this fuckin' place. It’s a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in The big club. By the way, it’s the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe. All day long beating you over the head with their media telling you what to believe, what to think and what to buy.

The table has tilted folks. The game is rigged and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care. Good honest hard-working people . . . white collar, blue collar it doesn’t matter what color shirt you have on. Good honest hard-working people continue, these are people of modest means . . . continue to elect these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t give a fuck about you . . . they don’t give a fuck about you. They don’t care about you at all . . . at all . . . at all, and nobody seems to notice. Nobody seems to care.

That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick that’s being jammed up their assholes everyday, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called the American Dream cause you have to be asleep to believe it..."

-George Carlin
 

sterkrazzy

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-George Carlin

Sad thing is it's more obvious than ever and we're still not doing anything about it...or can't do anything about it?
 
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Saabstory

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I named a single person whose actually doing it, didn't call an entire group as a name.
False... You didn't call them a name, but you still stereotyped an entire group and made the suggestion that they are either ignorant or sheeple...

I even bolded the part where you did exactly that.

Here, I'll do it again...
I'm not a democrat nor a republican. I'm registered as a libertarian at this very moment. I don't vote by party rather the person who is actually running. The thing about these parties is the majority who identify as a democrat or a republican while blindly vote for their own party with their eyes and ears closed even if the person running is the devil.
 
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