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Car Chat 2: The Place You Go When Plac ISN'T Considering a New Car

maxtdi

Go Kart Champion
Location
Nor-Cal
Out of budget, otherwise E90 M3 is indeed the perfect daily driver.

I am actually thinking of the RX8 as the cheap-ass little brother to that car.

RX8 does seem like it would be that yes. As would a BRZ/FRS but of course it is newer and more expensive.
 

troyguitar

Go Kart Champion
Location
Aurora, IL
Has there been a single car launch that promised significant weight savings and actually delivered?

Nope, you guys are a bunch of fucking losers.

that new M3 really looks like a joke, all you gain is 5 mpg and a newer warranty (that you'll fucking need with those turbos)

Apparently they took out a lot of weight by removing the sound deadening because it tested 76 bloody dB at 70 mph. That is Chevy Spark levels of road/wind noise. dafuq...
 

PetrolHead

When's the next track day
Location
Motor City
Car(s)
MKVI GTI
Nope, you guys are a bunch of fucking losers.

that new M3 really looks like a joke, all you gain is 5 mpg and a newer warranty (that you'll fucking need with those turbos)

Apparently they took out a lot of weight by removing the sound deadening because it tested 76 bloody dB at 70 mph. That is Chevy Spark levels of road/wind noise. dafuq...

Yea, the new M3 is a joke, IMO.

Based on the motoring press only the new Miata will have achieved that!

Have actual curb weights been released or is it still speculation?

They were claiming insane weight savings for the Mustang all the way up to production.
 

maxtdi

Go Kart Champion
Location
Nor-Cal
+100tq is not a joke.
 

PetrolHead

When's the next track day
Location
Motor City
Car(s)
MKVI GTI
It's not like the V8 was lacking tq. I really REALLY liked the way the V8 car delivered power. I'm going to have to agree with Troy on this one, given the purpose, the new one is a let down compared to the old. But honestly, that's the story of the F30 v E90.

Same weight. Same power. More complication. What could go wrong? :thumbdown:
 

maxtdi

Go Kart Champion
Location
Nor-Cal
0-60 is identical and it gained a whole 0.2 secs in the 1/4 mile - with better tires and lighter brakes so it's not even apples to apples.

It's not a fucking diesel commuter, it's a "Motorsport" car. HP >> TQ

Where are you getting your #s?

The new motor is worlds more powerful than the last...

It is a gussied up daily for Bro's who want to bench race online. Always has been for the 99% of buyers.

That said this new version is a LOT faster.

t makes 406 lb-ft of torque at 1500 rpm -- 111 lb-ft more and 3000 rpm sooner than the V-8 it supplants. In a test a month earlier, we recorded 0-60 mph acceleration of 3.8 seconds (0.4 sec faster than our 2008 long-term M3) and a quarter-mile run in 12.1 seconds at 117.8 mph (0.6 sec and 7.2 mph faster).

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1407_2015_bmw_m3_track_drive_road_trip/#ixzz3S7y6MGR9
 

PrayforMojo

Go Kart Champion
Location
Calgary
The higher noise at 70mph is probably from the Active sound. Having rode in a new M3 it was fucking loud. Car is sweet, but compared to my 235 its not worth the extra 20-30k.
 
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