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JudgementDEY · 02-17-2008, 04:11 AM

I have KUmho escta SPT's for 5,000miles and they give me no more traction anymore . I Spin my Tires all the way up until 3rd Gear!!!! If your running Stage 2 these tires are horrible no traction!!!!

DarkstaR · 02-17-2008, 04:26 AM

the Ecsta series isn't great for traction no doubt.

although, they are good for tread wear.

I have the Ecsta ASX's and I'm about to hit 30k (the tires, not the car) and the tires are doing okay (although they are almost completely bald).

SRTthis · 02-17-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JudgementDEY

I have KUmho escta SPT's for 5,000miles and they give me no more traction anymore . I Spin my Tires all the way up until 3rd Gear!!!! If your running Stage 2 these tires are horrible no traction!!!!

i have those same tires im on 7k now and they are still like brand new. is your aligment on? and do you spin tires alot or drive very aggresivly?

DarkstaR · 02-17-2008, 04:40 AM

oh yeah I forget to add that if you want to avoid wheel spin/torque steer then you should work on throttle control.

NewaveRide · 02-17-2008, 10:23 AM

and look into get a dogbone insert. it will help with the wheel spin some

ShadowGLI · 02-17-2008, 10:44 AM

Kuhmo is designed to be a CHEAP and DURABLE tire for low profile use.. if you want something sticky get ready to pay $200+ each tire and replace them each season...

And as said before, did you lower your car without an allignment, you can kill wheels in like 10,000 miles of less if not...

labelskate · 02-17-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowGLI

Kuhmo is designed to be a CHEAP and DURABLE tire for low profile use.. if you want something sticky get ready to pay $200+ each tire and replace them each season...

And as said before, did you lower your car without an allignment, you can kill wheels in like 10,000 miles of less if not...

I heard you don't have to align the tires in the GTI due to type of power steering it has... from a VERY credible source too.

DarkstaR · 02-17-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by labelskate

I heard you don't have to align the tires in the GTI due to type of power steering it has... from a VERY credible source too.

whatever the credible source was, I would still get an alignment regardless.

absoluteczech · 02-17-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by labelskate

I heard you don't have to align the tires in the GTI due to type of power steering it has... from a VERY credible source too.

qft

op get an alignment after lowering

ShadowGLI · 02-17-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by labelskate

I heard you don't have to align the tires in the GTI due to type of power steering it has... from a VERY credible source too.

My car rode like hell over 50mph and I went through a set of tires in 8 months, get an allignment..

JhnR · 02-17-2008, 08:07 PM

$109 -RT615.

mvhswr85ua · 02-17-2008, 08:20 PM

I bought some 225/40/18 General Exclaims for autocross, they sure do stick and don't cost 200+ a tire. If you want something that will grip, I'd go with Yokohoma S.Drives.

07GTI-2.0T · 02-17-2008, 08:56 PM

SPT are actually class leaders in traction and as you can see below fair better than well against competitors:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=97

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...lay.jsp?ttid=4

look at the "test result charts" and you will see they run circles around the General tires in lateral G's and outperform the Yok S. Drives as well.

your problem is you bought a budget ultra high performance tire expecting max or extreme peformance tire peformance. Hell there is NO tire a chipped 2.0T wont spin. I spun max performance contisport 2's, brigdestone RE050's and the SPT's too ( I bought em because I will sacrafice a little performance for twice the intervals between tire changes).

what were those 1rst kumho street tires that came out years ago before the MX that everybody had because they were cheap? those DID suck but kumho has come a long way in street tires starting with the MX to present (always made decent track tires).

veedubin · 02-18-2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jhnr

$109 -RT615.

Agree here. But you cant say all kuhmos suck. Every tire brand makes cheap crap tires and higher end performance tires. For example the kuhmo mx's are probably alot better then the tires you currently have.

JudgementDEY · 02-18-2008, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jhnr

$109 -RT615.

Im going with that setup

JudgementDEY · 02-18-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ShadowGLI

My car rode like hell over 50mph and I went through a set of tires in 8 months, get an allignment..

It is alligned ! These tires just wont grip anymore !!

JudgementDEY · 02-18-2008, 12:38 AM

I might go with these what do you guys think? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=49

RedRabidRabbit · 02-18-2008, 12:46 AM

No street tire is going to give you good straight line traction.

muskaroxs · 02-18-2008, 01:09 AM

I got stuck in a snow storm with my Kumho MX'S and they kept me alive! lol
I also have the general exaclaims and they seem like a quality tire for the price.

ChadNH · 02-22-2008, 12:37 AM

I was thinking about gettting the Kuhmo MX's just because of the price...how did they work out for you?

absoluteczech · 02-22-2008, 01:08 AM

mx's suck with road noise, oh man i had them on my 18" rs6 wheels and i would never get them again, the loudest tire ive ever driven on

EL PAALO · 02-22-2008, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkstaR

the Ecsta series isn't great for traction no doubt.

the MX, v700, and v710 beg to differ. Most of Kumho's tires are ecsta and they make some very sticky ones.

02-17-2008, 04:11 AM	#1
JudgementDEY Euro tuned Freak Drives: 2007 MKV GTI Black Magic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 871	Kumho tires Suck!! I have KUmho escta SPT's for 5,000miles and they give me no more traction anymore . I Spin my Tires all the way up until 3rd Gear!!!! If your running Stage 2 these tires are horrible no traction!!!! __________________ Neuspeed P-FLow,NEUSPEED Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge, Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe,ATP Downpipe,APR Stage 2,Boost gauge,H&R Sport springs,smoked side markers. FAST IS MY CO-PILOT

02-17-2008, 04:26 AM	#2
DarkstaR dope freshhhhhhhhhhh Drives: 2007 VW GTI Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 6,274	the Ecsta series isn't great for traction no doubt. although, they are good for tread wear. I have the Ecsta ASX's and I'm about to hit 30k (the tires, not the car) and the tires are doing okay (although they are almost completely bald). __________________ Derek

02-17-2008, 04:40 AM	#4
DarkstaR dope freshhhhhhhhhhh Drives: 2007 VW GTI Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 6,274	oh yeah I forget to add that if you want to avoid wheel spin/torque steer then you should work on throttle control. __________________ Derek

02-17-2008, 10:44 AM	#6
ShadowGLI Sandy Vagina Rinser Outer Drives: 2006 VW GLI w/ DSG Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Leominster, Ma Posts: 3,330 View ShadowGLI's Garage	Kuhmo is designed to be a CHEAP and DURABLE tire for low profile use.. if you want something sticky get ready to pay $200+ each tire and replace them each season... And as said before, did you lower your car without an allignment, you can kill wheels in like 10,000 miles of less if not... __________________ Before you PM me about how my COUSINS car is so low on racelands click HERE

02-18-2008, 12:38 AM	#17
JudgementDEY Euro tuned Freak Drives: 2007 MKV GTI Black Magic Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio TX Posts: 871	I might go with these what do you guys think? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=49 __________________ Neuspeed P-FLow,NEUSPEED Hi-Flow Turbo Discharge, Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe,ATP Downpipe,APR Stage 2,Boost gauge,H&R Sport springs,smoked side markers. FAST IS MY CO-PILOT

02-17-2008, 10:23 AM	#5
NewaveRide LOLOMGWTFEUROVERATED Drives: Thumper Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Exton, PA / Richmond, VA Posts: 2,962 View NewaveRide's Garage	and look into get a dogbone insert. it will help with the wheel spin some

02-17-2008, 08:07 PM	#11
JhnR Banned Drives: BM4D Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Van Nuys, CA Posts: 8,224	$109 -RT615.

02-17-2008, 08:20 PM	#12
mvhswr85ua Touring Car Champion Drives: 2004 Audi S4 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 228	I bought some 225/40/18 General Exclaims for autocross, they sure do stick and don't cost 200+ a tire. If you want something that will grip, I'd go with Yokohoma S.Drives.

02-17-2008, 08:56 PM	#13
07GTI-2.0T FIA GT Champion Drives: 07' CW GTI 6sp manual Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: newport news, va Posts: 1,097	SPT are actually class leaders in traction and as you can see below fair better than well against competitors: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...ay.jsp?ttid=97 http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...lay.jsp?ttid=4 look at the "test result charts" and you will see they run circles around the General tires in lateral G's and outperform the Yok S. Drives as well. your problem is you bought a budget ultra high performance tire expecting max or extreme peformance tire peformance. Hell there is NO tire a chipped 2.0T wont spin. I spun max performance contisport 2's, brigdestone RE050's and the SPT's too ( I bought em because I will sacrafice a little performance for twice the intervals between tire changes). what were those 1rst kumho street tires that came out years ago before the MX that everybody had because they were cheap? those DID suck but kumho has come a long way in street tires starting with the MX to present (always made decent track tires).

02-18-2008, 12:46 AM	#18
RedRabidRabbit I want FREE HAM!! Drives: 2011 GTI incoming Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 4,895	No street tire is going to give you good straight line traction.

02-18-2008, 01:09 AM	#19
muskaroxs Drag Racing Champion Drives: GTI Tornado Red.DSG Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ST.LOUIS Posts: 682	I got stuck in a snow storm with my Kumho MX'S and they kept me alive! lol I also have the general exaclaims and they seem like a quality tire for the price.

02-22-2008, 12:37 AM	#20
ChadNH FIA World Rally Car Champion Drives: '08 GTI, '95 Miata M Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Allenstown, NH Posts: 623	I was thinking about gettting the Kuhmo MX's just because of the price...how did they work out for you?

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