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REVIEW of Forge Motorsport Big Brake Kit Lotz of pics!

wndwsdwngti860

Upsidedown
Location
Long Island, NY
Car(s)
MKV GTI
Said car with Forge BBK:



So a while back I was speaking with Mike@Forge about the new Forge BBK. I saw a sneak peak of them last Waterfest and I knew I had to have them (not to mention I would be neededing a brake job soon). So I waited...and waited...and waited for production and finaliation to be done BUT, it was well worth the wait. After talking with Mike we both decided that it would better to go with the small of the 2 rotor sizes, the 13 inch . At the time I was running my winter setup which were 17" S4 wheels. My new summer set (pics below) was not going to be ready in time so I took the risk.







As you can see, the rotors and calipers just make it into the wheels, no rubbing or scraping.

The install was very straight forward (though I did not do it because of time and location restraints but could have if I had both to my advantage) (I also wanted to get them done before SoWo which was only a couple days away at the time) take off old calipers and rotors, take off dust shield, take out old lines, install in reverse order with supplied hardware, bleed lines, bed brakes, re-bleed/re-bed till no mo' bubbles.

After install:

Please do not be alarmed (my adapters are still bolted on)


Same shot (no adapters)


New Forge manufactured SS lines (I went with red as you can see)


you can see the ECB red stuff pads in there nice nice (install day)


a couple months of driving




I was in such a rush and so excited to install these that I forgot to take comparason weights. (sorry)

But what I can say is how awsome these are. Now, I daily drive my car...daily...annnnnd I like to drive fast, (REVO stg2 with other supporting Forge Mods) so I need to stop fast just incase ::knocks on wood:: WOW. My very first impression of these.

Now if you live on Long Island you know where Ocean Parkway is (if you dont, Google map it). Its a long stretch of straigh road by the water. It is where most people go to race and speed and get pulled over etc etc. But this is the place to go to bed your brakes. I have never stopped so fast so hard before in my life. Now I knew this was coming so I braced myself to not smash my face into the steering whell but forgot about the stuff in my trunk (my seats were down and all of it ended up in my front seat). I was very excited to finally Have a good set of brakes on my car. Now with any slotted and drilled rotor you get some noise when braking. I have only experienced this noise when braking harder than normal. (ex: spirited highway drive and being so into your drive you forget your exit and have to get over quick but then reaize your exit ramp is only a 20mph circle ccurve ramp). These are great for a dily driver as they are not COMPLETE overkill. I dont have to brace myself when braking going up to my local 7-11. Nor do I need to go to the dentist when coming to a short red light. (for you slower people: I dont smash my face into the steering wheel when stopping short).

Now some of you Auto-Xers out there might be asking..."Well what about me?!" "How are they on the track?!" WELL ILL TELL YOU! (I know its not a TRUE track course BUT!!!...) these performed flawlessly in the mountains of Helen, Georgia under some pretty harsh conditions. Going about 60mph into a 30mph turn, braking out of that turn because of a hold up in the cruise, braking hard around a hairpin turn towards the end of the cruise because some guy decided to stop in the middle of it, and constant braking and turning into and out of sharp turns and after a long straight away. I felt no slop in the brakes the entire time. They were working like the day after the final bleed, even after the cruise driving back to the town I was still impressed how well the kit performed.

I have: (some info taken from Forge Brake Spec Sheet)

13 inch rotors, front only. (330mm Min. 18” wheels required, may fit under some 17” wheels designed for big brakes)
2-piece floating rotorsCNC machined lightweight forged billet aluminium rotor hats/bells
Proprietary iron alloy rotor discs with directional curved vanes for optimized rotor cooling
Slotted and drilled rotors for dust and gas evacuation adds long term durability
CNC machined forged billet aluminum calipers
High strength to weight ratio at 3.46 kg (7.6 lbs)
Custom CNC machined forged billet aluminum caliper mounting bracket
Radial mounted caliper for maximum rigidity
6 pistons per caliper with staggered piston sizes for even pad wear (30mm, 36.5mm. 38.5mm)
Uses standard pad profile available from many popular pad manufacturers
Hard anodized finish on caliper, mounting brackets, and rotor hats
Pad retaining grooves, pins and clips reduce pad noise and allow for easy pad changes

Custom stainless braided brake lines, red (front and rear *rear per request by me*)
Disclaimer: "Every brake line included with each Forge big brake kit is manufactured in-house using only the highest quality
95PVC coated stainless steel braided Teflon hoses and custom machined stainless steel end fittings which
results in a brake line that will perform under the most extreme conditions whilst still looking good. They have
exceptional resistance to expansion under brake fluid pressure and heat, providing the driver with much needed
braking confidence in every driving situation. All of our brake hoses are street legal for any vehicle worldwide
and carry DOT, TUV, FMVSS-106, ADR, and LTSA approvals."

EBC Red Stuff pads (front and rear *rear per request by me*)
Super Blue Fliud (sold separately)

Summer set up:

So since I knew the 17" S4 wheels worked fine, I knew the new wheels ere going to be fine as well.

18" Porsche 3 peice wheels custom powdercoated to satin flat black centers and gloss black lips
18x8.5 fronts
18x10 rears



you can see that even the 13inch disks will fill an 18" wheel very nicely (dirty car)









Bottom line on the Forge VAG Big Brake Kit:

Awesome stopping power but not overkill. Great for daily driver and even better for a track car.

Id like to thank Mike and all the guys at Forge US and Forge UK for this excellent kit as well as high quality durable products.

:thumbsup:
 

GodSquadMandrake

Radioactive Rotary Rocket
Location
Minneapolis
Thanks for the review. I'll be watching this one. I'm watching Bostonaudi's thread too about the Racing Brake 2-piece rotors with R32 calipers. It will be an interesting comparison to see how long they last before needing to change rotor rings.
 

Mike@Forge

Go Kart Champion
Location
Orlando FL
Car(s)
07 BMP GTI Pkg 0
They look nice but I don't love how much gap is around the center of the rotor on the hub. The racing brake Rotors fit precisely, like OEM

Our rotors fit 100% precisely around the hub like OEM as well.

The one photo where it shows a gap is because the rotor hat is pulled away from the hub.
 

Mike@Forge

Go Kart Champion
Location
Orlando FL
Car(s)
07 BMP GTI Pkg 0
I just realized what is happening with this thread... so much for an unbiased review.

While Donald is running most, if not all of our products for the TSI MK5 application, most of which he verified fitment of completely of his own accord before we ever had access to a TSI engine ourselves, he is still a customer and has actually PAID for the product installed onto his car. These brakes included.

He even PAID to fly himself to the UK to visit Forge UK when we took a trip over there ourselves for some work.

His opinion is his own, and we have never asked anything of him other than to be completely honest in his opinions and reviews of our product.

I understand how some may assume that our relationship with him is a sponsorship arrangement and that he plugs our products because we asked him to, however, that is most certainly not the case.
 

wndwsdwngti860

Upsidedown
Location
Long Island, NY
Car(s)
MKV GTI
Hey Hyde my wheels are et 45...

and everyone else...what Mike says is honest truth. majority of parts were paid for by me and had on a previous GTI which was totaled and i was able to salvage parts off and make work on the TSI motor.

The BBK was paid for by me as well as a trip to Forge Action Day in the UK. All of the following are nothing but quality product. If you dont trust my review of a product i paid for then dont, thats your opinion and your entitled to it as well am I, but dont go around talking about things you dont know about...
 

HYDE16

Ready to race!
While Donald is running most, if not all of our products for the TSI MK5 application, most of which he verified fitment of completely of his own accord before we ever had access to a TSI engine ourselves, he is still a customer and has actually PAID for the product installed onto his car. These brakes included.

He even PAID to fly himself to the UK to visit Forge UK when we took a trip over there ourselves for some work.

His opinion is his own, and we have never asked anything of him other than to be completely honest in his opinions and reviews of our product.

I understand how some may assume that our relationship with him is a sponsorship arrangement and that he plugs our products because we asked him to, however, that is most certainly not the case.

Just to add to this, I've done the same with my reviews and I am not sponsored at all. I'm still on the fence about which brake upgrade I want although the Forge kit is in the lead. Mike, I'll be calling you soon to discuss.

These brakes don't have the brake pad wear sensors?
Will there be an error on the dash? Is there a way to turn that off with vag-com?
 

Elliott

Go Kart Champion
Location
Scottish but live in Spain.
Car(s)
07 GOLF GTI MKV
great review. saving has started.
more info on the wheels please.ive never seen these as a split twist before?:iono: illok on google now and there they are..but what are they off?
 

wndwsdwngti860

Upsidedown
Location
Long Island, NY
Car(s)
MKV GTI
great review. saving has started.
more info on the wheels please.ive never seen these as a split twist before?:iono: illok on google now and there they are..but what are they off?

thanks man. they are 3 piece porsche twists. came off the older narrow body porsches. not sure what model off hand but i do love them. i cant see myself gettig a different set of wheels. a lot of hard work went into them
 
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