Simmsled and Junker are right. Pardon me.
With DG springs you want Mk.VI B6 = HD.
With shorter and stiffer springs I'd still go for Mk.V B8 = Sport.
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bilstein hd vs sport
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Simmsled and Junker are right. Pardon me.
With DG springs you want Mk.VI B6 = HD.
With shorter and stiffer springs I'd still go for Mk.V B8 = Sport.
nubpotato
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Hey guys,
First, thanks for the really informative thread..
I'm bringing up an old thread, but I'm about the pull the trigger on a set of MK6 Bilstein HDs to go with my DG springs but just had one last question. I know MK6 suspension parts are technically "interchangeable" with MKV and all.. but is there actually any confirmation from manufacturers that they can be used in this way?
IE. what if in several years I need to replace them through warranty for any reason.. would Bilstein refuse it because it was not used on the intended year model?
My mechanic's supplier seems very hesitant on letting me place the order due to this risk, as they've never heard of people putting MK6 suspension parts on MKV models.
First, thanks for the really informative thread..
I'm bringing up an old thread, but I'm about the pull the trigger on a set of MK6 Bilstein HDs to go with my DG springs but just had one last question. I know MK6 suspension parts are technically "interchangeable" with MKV and all.. but is there actually any confirmation from manufacturers that they can be used in this way?
IE. what if in several years I need to replace them through warranty for any reason.. would Bilstein refuse it because it was not used on the intended year model?
My mechanic's supplier seems very hesitant on letting me place the order due to this risk, as they've never heard of people putting MK6 suspension parts on MKV models.
Auto 4D DG springs with Bilstein B8's have a 1.5 finger gap and we'll have to see how it settles. The fender-to-wheel center measurement was 343mm front and 345mm rear so as far as I am concerned it is perfectly level when you take any irregularities in the road, car, and springs into consideration. This is with >3/4 tank of fuel and with the spare tire but without the jack and the rear muffler (have DG exhaust).
As far as I am concerned the 2D Auto DG springs are 6-10mm higher VW Racing springs according to the TUV specs and my own measurements.
The ride quality with the MkVI Bilstein B8 Sports is truly amazing and I don't throw superlatives around like that lightly. Feel free to check any of my posts on the MkV forum. I can't image a better set-up for road. At first I almost thought it might be too soft, but I think it is the difference in having a lot of buttery smooth travel. Not bottoming, no jarring, no head bouncing off the headrest from freeway seams. Just clean, tight, long travel with no on center vagueness and no bump steer from irregular suspension travel - much less corrections. I do have both sway bars but seriously it's a good set-up. I'm going to get another alignment after another week or two and really push it to write-up my impressions. The stock Sachs dampers are probably fine for most people... it's been so long since I've had them on my car, but the MkVI B8s are truly amazing. Make sure you don't make the mistake of getting MkV B8s they are 20% harder. I can get the exact damping values to you but lets just leave it that the new dampers are not harsh like the old ones. Highly recommended set-up for the real world.
As far as I am concerned the 2D Auto DG springs are 6-10mm higher VW Racing springs according to the TUV specs and my own measurements.
The ride quality with the MkVI Bilstein B8 Sports is truly amazing and I don't throw superlatives around like that lightly. Feel free to check any of my posts on the MkV forum. I can't image a better set-up for road. At first I almost thought it might be too soft, but I think it is the difference in having a lot of buttery smooth travel. Not bottoming, no jarring, no head bouncing off the headrest from freeway seams. Just clean, tight, long travel with no on center vagueness and no bump steer from irregular suspension travel - much less corrections. I do have both sway bars but seriously it's a good set-up. I'm going to get another alignment after another week or two and really push it to write-up my impressions. The stock Sachs dampers are probably fine for most people... it's been so long since I've had them on my car, but the MkVI B8s are truly amazing. Make sure you don't make the mistake of getting MkV B8s they are 20% harder. I can get the exact damping values to you but lets just leave it that the new dampers are not harsh like the old ones. Highly recommended set-up for the real world.
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nycxandy
Newbie
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- NYC / Albany, NY
Do you have the part number for the MK6's?
I ordered them from Aaron Neumann (Neuspeed) who imports most of the Bilsteins and Konis in the US. I just ordered them using neuspeed.com.
http://www.neuspeed.com/118/2/0/0/suspension-chassis.html
No sales tax and free shipping for you. The new ones have amazing damping. :thumbsup:
agpatel
Touring Car Champion
- Location
- Greensboro, NC
- Car(s)
- 2006 GTI MkV
Also looking at Bilstein shocks, I am on Eibach Pro-Kit and from what I am reading here I could effectively go with ether HD or Sport. I was goinig to go with HD as I am on stock shocks now and no issues and dont want a shorter piston throw with the Sports and loose full travel unless that will pretty much never happen under extreme cases. I will look into the MK6 versions as I do not want a bone jarring ride.
:w00t:Keep us posted. Maybe see how the B6 Bilsteins affect your ride height and how the ride compares to your old OEM shocks. :thumbsup:
Can you confirm the amount of lowering the American Eibach Pro-Kit provides:?
Wheel Center to Fender Measurements:
MkV Non-US GTI: 360mm/365mm
MkV US GTI: 382mm/380mm
Current: ?mm/?mm
Amount Lowered over US MkV stock specification: ?mm/?mm
Can you confirm the amount of lowering the American Eibach Pro-Kit provides:?
Wheel Center to Fender Measurements:
MkV Non-US GTI: 360mm/365mm
MkV US GTI: 382mm/380mm
Current: ?mm/?mm
Amount Lowered over US MkV stock specification: ?mm/?mm
Junker said:
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agpatel
Touring Car Champion
- Location
- Greensboro, NC
- Car(s)
- 2006 GTI MkV
n my 06 it ended up lowering it right around 1.1-1.2 inches if i remember correctly from when i got it done and it settled out. I will try and get the center of wheel to fender measurements soon for ya.
silversquirrel
Passed Driver's Ed
- Location
- New England
Junker, can you tell me what the units are for this data? . Im considering having my hds revalved for my A3 3.2q, and trying to educate myself on the compression and rebound numbers.
Also any update on the MK6 hds now that youve had them a while, re handling and ride quality?
silversquirrel
Passed Driver's Ed
- Location
- New England
that might be why his mailbox is full... i tried pm'ing, but got bounced.
One thing that is immediately apparent from Junkers bilstein numbers is the rebound to compression ratio is very low.. 1.2:1 for the fronts, both MKV and MK6.
Hi
I'm noob in this. For a Non-US mk5 gti (4dr DSG), will I get the same driving characteristcs if I go for this same setup as Junker's ie DG spring+B8 (mk6) shocks?
Tks