Revised rear camber and toe

Nd272 said:

Hi all,

Remember hearing that there was supposedly revised figures for rear suspension to reduce the effects on inner tyre wear.

Just wondering what the rear camber and toe should be before purchasing new tires and getting it laser aligned

Thanks


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vwengineer said:

Camber: -1.45° +- 30' / US setting (I guess the one you want): -1.2° +- 30' (max difference between sides 30')



Total toe (at specified camber) : +10' +- 12.' / US setting: same (max deviation from direction of travel 20')

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Nd272 said:

Hi thanks very much for getting back to me, would that also apply in Europe ?


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vwengineer said:

Yes, the Europe setting for the GTI and R32 is -1.45° +- 30' but I assume the US setting (which also applies to non-GTI/R32 Golf V in Europe) will wear a bit less the inner side (but also probably means less grip).



EDIT: found the reference http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswa...lignment/wheel_alignment_specifications_golf/

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Nd272 said:

I have seen in other places that there were “revised” figures done by vw , I’ll just have the tire place go off what vwengineer posted above as I don’t have a clue myself, just trying to mitigate the rear inner tire wear as possible


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vwengineer said:

I have a camber of about -1.7° on the rear so pretty aggressive. My rear summer tires have about 6-5mm thread left on the outside and about 3mm on the inner side. I was looking myself to lower the camber for this reason but I guess I will just rotate the tires.

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Nd272 said:

I see, so would I be safe enough just quoting the figures you gave me above for the rear when I go in?

As well as that I will rotate them every few thousand miles and try get the value out of them


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vwengineer said:

The figures come from VW itself. But if you go get an alignment they will have the manufacturer values for your car anyway. Note that less camber is maybe better regarding thread wear but can also negatively affect the behavior of the rear in curves, this is the reason why the GTI has more camber than less sportier versions.

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Nd272 said:

Thanks a million, any preferences on tires ? do you find some are better than others?


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ROH ECHT said:

I asked for mine to be set at -1.5° on the rear last time it was aligned and they still wear on the inner tread of the rear tires as a daily driver. Here's a question; I have both front and rear H&R ARB's...front on softest setting and rear on stiffest setting. I keep seeing the rear -camber should be -1.5°(±0.5°) 15' for a 2007 gti...and I am thinking of asking for -1.0° in a couple of months. Thoughts?

Oh, my favorite performance tires to date, after three other types, are Pirelli P Zero All-Season Plus( https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...wall=Blackwall&partnum=24YR8P0ASPXL&tab=Sizes )...they have a 40k mile warranty, but I think they will not make that even when rotating every 6 months and aligning every year.

My next tire will likely be Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ ( https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...ll=Blackwall&partnum=24YR8PSAS3PLXL&tab=Sizes ) due to; https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/chartDisplay.jsp?ttid=230

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