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Old 04-18-2012, 07:52 PM   #1
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Golf R Clutch for GTI FSI cars

Anyone know if the OEM Clutch VW puts in the Golf R can be dropped into a FSI GTI? Is it stronger then the GTI's?

I'm guessing AWD might make it non compatible but figure i'd ask.
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Old 04-18-2012, 11:11 PM   #2
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Anyone know if the OEM Clutch VW puts in the Golf R can be dropped into a FSI GTI? Is it stronger then the GTI's?

I'm guessing AWD might make it non compatible but figure i'd ask.
Bump, a clutch is a clutch. I would like to know the answer to this as well considering the R has the FSI.
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:08 AM   #3
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Bump, a clutch is a clutch. I would like to know the answer to this as well considering the R has the FSI.
i would like to know this also,since I heard a lot of bad stories with Southbend clutches and their disk/spring issues
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Old 04-19-2012, 12:24 AM   #4
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Bumpidy bump, if it works it may be a great oPtion for 2+ and k04 guys. Answers anyone?
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:00 PM   #5
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i would like to know this also,since I heard a lot of bad stories with Southbend clutches and their disk/spring issues
Dont you have a SB? Working well for you? Seems like they are the only real option people run with our cars, sucks there has been issues lately.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:11 PM   #6
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May want to look into what the ed30 gti used for a clutch part number for comparison also since that was fwd and k04
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:15 PM   #7
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:36 PM   #8
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:54 PM   #9
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I don't see how an OEM clutch would be a better solution than aftermarket considering the cost.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:57 PM   #10
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Dont you have a SB? Working well for you? Seems like they are the only real option people run with our cars, sucks there has been issues lately.
i do,just saying....in the future.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:30 PM   #11
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I don't see how an OEM clutch would be a better solution than aftermarket considering the cost.
The aftermarket kits are stupid expensive and a fair number of us have had failures. If the factory has a higher rated setup that would bolt in - I'm in.
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Old 04-19-2012, 11:42 PM   #12
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The aftermarket kits are stupid expensive and a fair number of us have had failures. If the factory has a higher rated setup that would bolt in - I'm in.
didnt u have that problem?
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Old 04-20-2012, 12:17 AM   #13
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Old 04-20-2012, 03:16 AM   #14
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I own an Audi S3 (Golf R is a rebadged S3), and since the engine is a FSI, VAG has chosen to use the same GTI (FSI) clutch. Thus, both for K04, both for awd, the clutch still holds less than on the GTI...
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:22 AM   #15
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I own an Audi S3 (Golf R is a rebadged S3), and since the engine is a FSI, VAG has chosen to use the same GTI (FSI) clutch. Thus, both for K04, both for awd, the clutch still holds less than on the GTI...
ahhhhh thats horrible... so same part number...seriously same part?! Ugh...I dont see how VW could make sense of that.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:30 AM   #16
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Not for nothing the OEM FSI clutch handles well, i've thrown everything at it and not once in the 6 years i've owned this car has it slipped or failed. **knock on wood**
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Old 04-20-2012, 09:30 AM   #17
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recently had my SB stage 2 endurance installed with a wavetrac lsd and it runs great, night and day from the stock stuff. Im sure any clutch parts if you mistreat them there gonna fail, Theres alot of happy SB users out there with no problems, I hope im one of them but time will tell. So far very happy!
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recently had my SB stage 2 endurance installed with a wavetrac lsd and it runs great, night and day from the stock stuff. Im sure any clutch parts if you mistreat them there gonna fail, Theres alot of happy SB users out there with no problems, I hope im one of them but time will tell. So far very happy!
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bump, has anyone experimented with this lately?
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Old 04-20-2013, 04:34 PM   #20
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There's another thread I just bumped that talks about the golf R clutch. I'm not sure if it has been established that it's the same part number, but seems it'll still fit a GTI. Dunno of it has proven to be an upgrade though.

I saved money and retained stockish drivability by buying a $399 Southbend Stage 3 TSI clutch disk and adding it to my factory clutch assembly. Stock flywheel and pressure plate, but a grippier clutch disk that is designed to hold to 350tq. No added NVH, minimal extra clutch effort, and holds better than my stock clutch behind my K04, at a fraction of the cost of getting a full clutch/ flywheel kit. It isn't as easy to drive smoothly as the clutch is much more grabby and the engagement point is much more abrupt, but such is the Racecar business.

And yes, that Southbend TSI clutch disk fits the FSI. They don't list an FSI part number but I confirmed this on the phone with SB before placing my order and installing in my 08 FSI car.
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Old 04-21-2013, 06:54 AM   #21
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There seem to be a lot of R clutch failure threads on mk6 as well as vortex. Some stock Rs are slipping with very little mileage on them. Apparently the dealerships have been replacing the original ones with an uprated VW revision. There's a new part number. I can't find it at the moment though.

Additionally, some of the R guys are picking up Sachs SRE clutches.

Disc: 881864999502
Pressure plate: 883082001394
Kit: 001394.999502

Not sure where they're being imported though? I read that a few people ordered directly from Germany.
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Old 04-21-2013, 11:56 AM   #22
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There seem to be a lot of R clutch failure threads on mk6 as well as vortex. Some stock Rs are slipping with very little mileage on them. Apparently the dealerships have been replacing the original ones with an uprated VW revision. There's a new part number. I can't find it at the moment though.

Additionally, some of the R guys are picking up Sachs SRE clutches.

Disc: 881864999502
Pressure plate: 883082001394
Kit: 001394.999502

Not sure where they're being imported though? I read that a few people ordered directly from Germany.
Curious to see the new part # and what's different on the new kit.
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