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avenali312

avenali312

Autocross Champion
Location
Mableton, GA
Car(s)
2015 GTI
Hey all,

So here's the story, at about 50k miles I noticed a metallic rattle from under my engine and took it to the dealer. They found that cylinder 3 was 2mm out of spec and replaced the engine under warranty.

I have been reading a lot about the cam follower lately and how people are checking them every 10k miles, especially the 06's like mine. My new engine just hit 10k miles, but what I'm wondering is if my new engine could possibly be the revised B cam setup. Is there a stamp on the block somewhere that says what engine version it is? I have the receipt from the work, but all I have is a part number and it comes up as Base Engine. I tried searching the part number with Google, but got nothing.

If my engine did happen to be manufactured in 08 for example, would the cam follower be as much of an issue?

Thanks for any insight,
Adam
 
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krayzie089

Ready to race!
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Revision B cam or not as long as its still an FSI, the cam follower issue still remains. The new cam is able to take more of a beating thats all, but it can still be damaged.
 
604GTI

604GTI

#yoloSWAG
Location
Vancouver
avenali312 said:
Hey all,

So here's the story, at about 50k miles I noticed a metallic rattle from under my engine and took it to the dealer. They found that cylinder 3 was 2mm out of spec and replaced the engine under warranty.

I have been reading a lot about the cam follower lately and how people are checking them every 10k miles, especially the 06's like mine. My new engine just hit 10k miles, but what I'm wondering is if my new engine could possibly be the revised B cam setup. Is there a stamp on the block somewhere that says what engine version it is? I have the receipt from the work, but all I have is a part number and it comes up as Base Engine. I tried searching the part number with Google, but got nothing.

If my engine did happen to be manufactured in 08 for example, would the cam follower be as much of an issue?

Thanks for any insight,
Adam
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Check to see if your engine cover says FSI or TSI. If you somehow got a new TSI engine then you don't have to worry about the cam follower as it's a roller follower. As for the cam revision it should be B cam but don't quote me on that.
 
avenali312

avenali312

Autocross Champion
Location
Mableton, GA
Car(s)
2015 GTI
604GTI said:
Check to see if your engine cover says FSI or TSI. If you somehow got a new TSI engine then you don't have to worry about the cam follower as it's a roller follower. As for the cam revision it should be B cam but don't quote me on that.
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It is still an FSI.
 
604GTI

604GTI

#yoloSWAG
Location
Vancouver
avenali312 said:
It is still an FSI.
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Well then the cam follower will be and continue to be an issue. You more than likely got the rev B cam so it'll be less of an issue than the rev A cam. Just stock up on cam followers and check every 5-10k miles if your as paranoid as I am about it.
 
604GTI

604GTI

#yoloSWAG
Location
Vancouver
Yeah and also if you do a search on google you can find the cam follower shipped for about $39 or something. I believe it was from Murrieta VW parts dept. I got it for $49 shipped to Canada.
 
avenali312

avenali312

Autocross Champion
Location
Mableton, GA
Car(s)
2015 GTI
604GTI said:
...if your as paranoid as I am about it.
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I really have started studying the things to look out for since I was accepted to grad school in Georgia and will be making the 850 mile trip from Pennsylvania a few times a year. I really don't want anything major to happen on that kind of trip that would involve staying in hotel halfway while a dealer takes care of it.

I haven't taken the cover off so I don't know if I have the banjo bolt or not, but any tips on getting that out if I do have it?
 
avenali312

avenali312

Autocross Champion
Location
Mableton, GA
Car(s)
2015 GTI
ecoterragaia said:
Wow, a rattle got you a new engine :thumbsup: My dealership would say "that's normal, there's no check engine thingy, don't worry . . ."
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The receipt was actually really well written. They put it on the lift, noticed it was coming from the area around cylinder 3 and just kept following VWoA's instructions until they found the problem. I guess they figured that the man hours to fix it would be higher that just dropping in a new powerplant :thumbsup:
 
JetTurbo

JetTurbo

geezer
Location
South Florida, USA
Car(s)
2018 GTi Autobahn 6M
banjo bolt M8 triple square tool

avenali312 said:
...I haven't taken the cover off so I don't know if I have the banjo bolt or not, but any tips on getting that out if I do have it?
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It is all about the tool. There is not much clearance in there. You need an M8 triple square bit.

A good choice is the GearWrench 4 Pc. Triple Square Metric Bit Socket Set 1/4'' Drive available online from Sears. (M4 - M5 - M6 - M8) .
Sears Item# 00992177000 | Model# 80320



The bits are really short / compact - the M8 in this set is well suited to the banjo bolt removal task.

I had pulled the M8 bit out of the socket/holder and put it into the closed end
of an 8mm combination wrench resulting in a tool like this ...

Did not work so well, there was not enough clearance to swing the wrench a full tooth.

A ratchet on the socketed bit was easier to use on my car, using a 1/4"-3/8" drive adaptor was just enough extension
to drop the 3/8" ratchet below most of the lines.
I used a 3/8" fine tooth ratchet and it was easy work. I even got a 3/8" torque wrench on it for proper tightening :wink:

 
avenali312

avenali312

Autocross Champion
Location
Mableton, GA
Car(s)
2015 GTI
JetTurbo said:
It is all about the tool. There is not much clearance in there. You need an M8 triple square bit...

...I used a 3/8" fine tooth ratchet and it was easy work. I even got a 3/8" torque wrench on it for proper tightening :wink:
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Wow! Thanks! That is exactly what I'm looking for, by the way, what is the proper torque for the bolts on the fuel pump?
 
JetTurbo

JetTurbo

geezer
Location
South Florida, USA
Car(s)
2018 GTi Autobahn 6M
FSI (BPY) - high pressure fuel pump (hpfp) - fastener tightening torques

avenali312 said:
Wow! Thanks! That is exactly what I'm looking for, by the way, what is the proper torque for the bolts on the fuel pump?
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bolts - fuel pump to cylinder head - 10 Nm (7 ft-lbs)
union nut - fuel line to fuel pump - 25 Nm (18 ft-lbs)
banjo bolt - fuel line to fuel pump - 17 Nm (12 ft-lbs)
low pressure fuel sensor - 15 Nm (11 ft-lbs)
 
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