APR Chip

[maperry123]

I just got my APR direct port program from New German Performance in Maryland today. I was amazed with the instant change. The program makes it incredibly easy switch back to factory settings or other setting you may have purchased. Not all the programs are out yet but will be soon. i.e. Anti-theft. The HP increase was about 53 (from 200 to 253) and the Torque increase was incredible too (207 to 303). Both recorded at the flywheel. The whole ordeal took about an hour to install and learn to use. If you have a GTI or GLI the APR programs are a must!!

[YenPxxx]

+ 100ft/lb torque :eyebulge: :eyebulge: That's gotta be worth at least half a second in 0-60? I still can't believe how much can be squeezed out of these engines just from ECU reprogramming :thumbup: :thumbup:

[99swift99]

So you had a dyno right after installation? Thats nuts and that's just chip alone right? Any plans for intake/exhaust?

[muharem]

How much did it cost u, for ur chip with an instalation.

[GTi Fanatic]

I will be getting an APR for my GTI as well,
Unfortunately we dont have 93 octane...
are you using dsg? is there alot of wheelspin on 1st and other gear changes?

[RedlineMotorworks]

holy cow...

give us a link to where we can buy this!

Do you need to run 93 octane??

How much was it?

:eyebulge: :eyebulge:

[Fastcandy]

i plan on getting this program when i get my gti. I keep hearing awesome things about it, so far APR is making the best it seems.

[Lellobeetle]

www.goapr.com

I had it on my 20th anniversary edition gti and I can report that it is WELL worth the money. AND, with security lockout the dealer won't find it. Also, the feature I really loved was Anti-Theft which will prohibit the engine from turning over (when activated) even with your own key in the ignition. Of course, this wouldn't prohibit someone from flatbedding your car away if they really wanted it.

[cmcm]

I just got my APR direct port program from New German Performance in Maryland today. I was amazed with the instant change. The program makes it incredibly easy switch back to factory settings or other setting you may have purchased. Not all the programs are out yet but will be soon. i.e. Anti-theft. The HP increase was about 53 (from 200 to 253) and the Torque increase was incredible too (207 to 303). Both recorded at the flywheel. The whole ordeal took about an hour to install and learn to use. If you have a GTI or GLI the APR programs are a must!!

I had it installed last week, but did not do a dyno. If you had the dyno of your car, would u mind post it? thanks!!!!
(me 2 enjoying my APR's tuning!! Just returned the H&R springs today and ordered the H&R cup kit suspension system!!!my next thing is the wheel!!)

[StookMK5]

I had it installed last week, but did not do a dyno. If you had the dyno of your car, would u mind post it? thanks!!!!
(me 2 enjoying my APR's tuning!! Just returned the H&R springs today and ordered the H&R cup kit suspension system!!!my next thing is the wheel!!)

Sorry off-topic, but what wheels are you getting!? The cupkit sounds like it has a really perfect drop.

[cmcm]

Sorry off-topic, but what wheels are you getting!? The cupkit sounds like it has a really perfect drop.

My budget for the wheels is less than $1300/set, thinking of getting ENKEI or OZ.

[BLACKMAGICGTI'06]

the apr chip there are so many options what should i get??? i have never had any experience with chipping cars??

[cmcm]

the apr chip there are so many options what should i get??? i have never had any experience with chipping cars??

Dude
I had 2 APR programs in my car, and definitely I was impressed about the programs. They just tune your original chip in the car, not really replacing. Took about 30 mins, bingo!!!
2 programs - APR tuned & Stock.
So I can switch the program and let my GF learn how to drive stick.
also a security lockout - switch back to stick and use code to do the lockout, so that the dealer won't able to know the car is tuned.
3rd program is the slow-down valet i think, so use this program when let someone drives your car.
4th one (I like to have this one sooner or later) is the 100 octane boost switch, thats why I'm shopping the racetrack in the midwest now.:thumbup:

[BLACKMAGICGTI'06]

so the 4 program kit with security lockout is what i want right?

[cmcm]

so the 4 program kit with security lockout is what i want right?

i only have the 1st 2 programs, up to you for the other 2.
(u need 100 octane boost if you race, u also need the valet if you goto club 3 times a week) just kidding.:thumbup:

[BLACKMAGICGTI'06]

they are all different prices or no??? can i have the programming for the window up/sunroof open thingy too wile i am there or is that something different?

[Bouston]

Damn, this is impressive.

[Horizon]

they are all different prices or no??? can i have the programming for the window up/sunroof open thingy too wile i am there or is that something different?
Listed at the bottom of this page shows the additional cost of the other options: http://www.goapr.com/VW/products/ecu_upgrade_mkvgti.html

And I believe the sunroof stuff deals with VagCom, which is totally different (but it's possible an APR dealer might have a VagCom setup at their shop).

[RedlineMotorworks]

if and when I get my GTI, this chip is my first mod:cool:

[Turbo Maniac]

Also check out Revo www.revotechnik.com

I have them on my MKIV and love it. I personally prefer Revo as they deliver more power... 262 hp and 303 tq. Any of the big three will put a big :biggrin: on your face.....Revo, APR, or GIAC. This is a must for all VW turbo owners. Instant power for nothing more than reprogramming your stock ECU settings to increase boost, timing, and fuel delivery.

I will be getting Revo in a few months if I can hold out that long. I want to break the car in and get used to driving it first but we'll see how long that philosphy lasts.

[ciacc]

you guys are yet to talk about the extra wear this mod has to engine, i spoke to a VW technician of 9 years and he said that its a great mod, but drastically reduces the life span of the turbo and the engine, he suggested a great exhaust system and cold air induction as the best mods. gains of 35 hp can be achieved

[Bouston]

you guys are yet to talk about the extra wear this mod has to engine, i spoke to a VW technician of 9 years and he said that its a great mod, but drastically reduces the life span of the turbo and the engine, he suggested a great exhaust system and cold air induction as the best mods. gains of 35 hp can be achieved


I feel that when ever you modify the performance of a car it shortens the lifespan of the car. However I want to have fun with my car, so if that shortens the life of the car so be it. I don't plan on keeping the car for the next 30 years anyways. If it makes it, that's fine. If not, I'll move on to something else. Besides what if all you did was baby the car, and wrecked it a month or year later? Wouldn't you regret not exploring the possibilities & limits of the car? I would.

[bigdyno]

I think the trick is to do all the pieces (chip, intake exhaust, brakes, wheels, tell me when to stop). I am going to do wheels an brakes first, the intake and exhaust and finally the chip. I plan to do it in this order because simply adding a bunch of power will take away from the refinement of the car as a system.

[blackmkv]

you guys are yet to talk about the extra wear this mod has to engine, i spoke to a VW technician of 9 years and he said that its a great mod, but drastically reduces the life span of the turbo and the engine, he suggested a great exhaust system and cold air induction as the best mods. gains of 35 hp can be achieved
also without a modified ecu in these turbo engines, dont even bother going to the track or even running your car with anyone out there now a days. you'll be embarassed

[maperry123]

Get your car chipped now. APR will be releasing their exhaust soon and they offer a free stage II upgrade when you buy the exhaust. I was going to get the Milltek turbo back but this offer is too good to pass up.

[McPsycho]

Get your car chipped now. APR will be releasing their exhaust soon and they offer a free stage II upgrade when you buy the exhaust. I was going to get the Milltek turbo back but this offer is too good to pass up.

OMG! im gonna try and go get the remap this coming tuesday. cant wait!

and do u know how much more power the stage 2 upgrade will give u and what the exhaust looks like? like if its split or on one side?

[maperry123]

NO pics of the exhaust yet because its not out. all i know is that it is a 3" turbo back. The gains in HP and torque haven't been posted yet. Keep checking with goapr.com

[McPsycho]

NO pics of the exhaust yet because its not out. all i know is that it is a 3" turbo back. The gains in HP and torque haven't been posted yet. Keep checking with goapr.com

kkk. thanks man.

[Icranon]

i was looking on the apr website as to get a clue on how to order it. I found everything alright, but im confused on this one issue, do you have to buy the stock and chipped program with the chip, or do they come with it?

[maperry123]

To get the chip it is $599. So if you just want one program it will be that much plus labor costs. For 2 programs it is an additional $149. so this means you will probably get stock and either 91 or 93 octane programs. On my chip I have stock and 93 octane programs. I also have security lockout. so it was 599(chip)+149(2 programs)+59(security lockout)+65(labor costs). Grand total = 872

[Icranon]

ah ok now i see thanks

[vdubGTi]

cmcm did you get ur car chipped at GRD in Naperville or somewhere else? Also anyone know any GTI tuners in Chicagoland area?

[Skim Diesel]

I was thinking of taking it to New German in MD. How was the service? These guys have the ABT body kit as well. Was thinking of killin two birds w/ one stone.

[maperry123]

NGP was really good with customer service. Jim will be the one taking car of the chip if you go there. I didn't have anything wrong with my car but someone was having an exhaust problem when i was there. NGP bent over backwards to get this guys car fixed within a couple of hours. They had guys driving to their shop to help out to get the owner back on the road. I'll definately go back to NGP when i get my exhaust and intake put in.

[LivEToDrivE]

I live like 20 minutes south of DC, how far away is NGP?....and do you think they'd do my REVO chip tuning?

[frank2287]

between REVO, APR, GIAC what is the best bang for your buck??? I really am looking for the most power over anything and i think APR will be one of the few to come out with 100 octain setting which i had on my 1.8 and was just a monster.

[loccusst]

So is your ecu reprogrammed and does it have to be done by a pro or is it re-chipped as in a new chip is placed in the ecu?

[LivEToDrivE]

The best bang it seems right now is REVO, more HP then the APR but its like 100 bucks cheaper...But they feature the same options, dealer block out blah blah blah...i had originally ordered APR, but when I found out REVO came out with 2.0 software, I switched...hopefully it'll get thrown in to effect this weekend

[McPsycho]

i just got my apr reflash today!!!!!!! i got the stock and 93 settings programmed. i only got on it once tho cuz i only have like 550 miles on the car but i could tell a pretty big difference in power. but i forgot to take off the esp so im thinking that was limiting the power by quite a lot. its gonna be so hard now to take it easy on the break-in cuz im gonna be so tempted to switch over to 93 but i couldnt wait any longer to get it done. oh and should i have the car dyno tuned now? i kinda just wanna know im getting the power ARR is claiming but do u guys think its nescesary(know thats spelt wrong) to have that done?

[GTI 2.0T]

If i install a turbo-back exhaust system.... and wanted an ECU remap by APR, will the software be different than the original (what you guys are getting)? or will it be compatible with the exhaust (doesnt need any modifications to the software):help:

[baubaulu]

I just got my APR direct port program from New German Performance in Maryland today. I was amazed with the instant change. The program makes it incredibly easy switch back to factory settings or other setting you may have purchased. Not all the programs are out yet but will be soon. i.e. Anti-theft. The HP increase was about 53 (from 200 to 253) and the Torque increase was incredible too (207 to 303). Both recorded at the flywheel. The whole ordeal took about an hour to install and learn to use. If you have a GTI or GLI the APR programs are a must!!

How long does it take from 0-10KM/h after the modifcation?

[maperry123]

IF you already have the chip and then get the turbo back exhaust from apr they will reprogram the ecu (again) when you get the exhaust.

http://www.ngpracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=FE100021&Category_Code=mk5exhaust

[VDUB725]

Does anyone know what exactly them reporgramming their ecu for the exhaust does? Will it give extra powero r just fine tune it?

[maperry123]

i'll let you know when i get the exhaust in a couple of weeks

[baubaulu]

I just got my APR direct port program from New German Performance in Maryland today. I was amazed with the instant change. The program makes it incredibly easy switch back to factory settings or other setting you may have purchased. Not all the programs are out yet but will be soon. i.e. Anti-theft. The HP increase was about 53 (from 200 to 253) and the Torque increase was incredible too (207 to 303). Both recorded at the flywheel. The whole ordeal took about an hour to install and learn to use. If you have a GTI or GLI the APR programs are a must!!


Is it easy to change the ECU? Do you have any insturction book or any picture?
Thank you!

[GTI2007]

Is it easy to change the ECU? Do you have any insturction book or any picture?
Thank you!

No, it ain't easy to change the ECU. The ECU is a PROM (Programmable Read Only Memory) chip soldered to a maiboard which sits into a sealed box in the engine compartment. If you would change the original PROM chip you would have to desolder the original ECU and change if for an other PROM chip that you also need to resolder back into the original holes of the original PROM chip. It is way easier to let reflash the ECU by using the OBD II port.

[GTI 2.0T]

IF you already have the chip and then get the turbo back exhaust from apr they will reprogram the ecu (again) when you get the exhaust.

http://www.ngpracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=FE100021&Category_Code=mk5exhaust


Thanx for the reply maperry123:thumbsup: so if i get a TB exhaust, then chip the car, the software really does have to be different than stock GTI. Please keep us updated :biggrin: .

[Wild Hare]

you guys are yet to talk about the extra wear this mod has to engine, i spoke to a VW technician of 9 years and he said that its a great mod, but drastically reduces the life span of the turbo and the engine, he suggested a great exhaust system and cold air induction as the best mods. gains of 35 hp can be achieved
That's funny... when I worked at Audi the factory tech rep told us in service that double the 150hp from the factory, so long as regular service intervals were maintained they really saw no problems. He also stated that upgrades on VAG cars in Germany were very common.

He stated the the main point was keeping the old changed and using a great sythetic like Amsoil or the others to prevent oil coking in the turbo and it's associated feed lines!

That tech you spoke to is extremely stuck (can't view outside the box). We have guys on the B6 1.8t's making over 400HP on stock internals and they hold up too.

[GTT]

That's funny... when I worked at Audi the factory tech rep told us in service that double the 150hp from the factory, so long as regular service intervals were maintained they really saw no problems. He also stated that upgrades on VAG cars in Germany were very common.

He stated the the main point was keeping the old changed and using a great sythetic like Amsoil or the others to prevent oil coking in the turbo and it's associated feed lines!

That tech you spoke to is extremely stuck (can't view outside the box). We have guys on the B6 1.8t's making over 400HP on stock internals and they hold up too.

The Euro GTI even has a factory authorized or at least warrantied chip upgrade to boost power.
I believe this was a thread on a GTI Euro website.

T

[baubaulu]

We dont have the BOOST meter in our Dash. How about yours? What is the Boost meter for?

[R-Mac06]

ok i have just a couple of areas im confused that have already been talked about but was wondering if they could be cleared up (sorry).... as far as warranty if they find the chip but you keep the service up they dont mind?? And i'm a lil worried about wheel spin, its hard for me to see a front wheel drive car with posted average gains equalling around 283HP and 285ft lb not having massive wheel spin issues, is anyone experiencing this with the apr chip intalled?

[maperry123]

whell spin is in gears 1 and 2 but i also am on stock tires, after i get my new rims and sticker tires it should be minimal.

[R-Mac06]

how bad is the wheel spin now? minor or is it to the point where it affects the feel of the drive when you really get on it?

[Wild Hare]

APR makes a great chip, don't get me wrong. GIAC has the most aggressive profile I've seen so far.
Upsolute is the lamest!