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JJ-R32
05-02-2006, 11:24 PM
Reprinted with 4string's permission:
Finally finished getting my R32 tail lights working in my 2006 GTI. Very easy to install the light assemblies in the body and the hatch. Since I am not using a rear fog light I removed the left inner lens light socket assembly from the R32 tail light which is held in by 3 screws and removed the red lens from the R32 left inner tail light and and exchanged it with the clear lens from the old GTI tail light. The red lens just snaps out and just snap in the clear one. The most tedious task is rewiring the outer light assembly's multiplug connectors. In order to get the tail lights functioning properly you need either a VAG 5052/5051 or a VAG-COM to alter the Long Coding of the Central Electrics Controller. I will display the Long Coding I used by it may differ from the coding for individual cars. I am using the front foglights as my DRLs instead of the HID bulbs as the DRLs. Below is the coding I am using. Make sure you record your original Long Coding before attempting to make any changes to the Central Electrics Controller.Here is the Long Coding I'm using:
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
You will need 2 wire terminals to insert into the multiplug terminal housings for the outboard rear light assemblies. The terminals you can get at the VW dealer and the terminals will have a short piece of wire crimped onto them that you can splice onto the original harness.
The part number for the wiring terminal is:
000 979 141
What is important is the wiring colors for the right and left side of the car are different. As long as you concentrate on which cavity in the multiplug connector that the correct designated wire is inserted into as shown in my photos you won't have any problems.
Here are the DIY steps to do this mod.........I hope it isn't too vague.
The inner tail lights are the easiest to do. Open the hatch and on each side of the hatch there are small trim panels that you can pry off to access the nuts and wiring connectors. Remove the connectors and the nuts, detach lens from hatch and reinstall R32 inner tail lights in the reverse order. Fairly straightforward procedure.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D3233634%3B%3B868%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D3233634%3B%3B8694nu0mrj
Now for the real work.................
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C58%3B74%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C597%3C64nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B74%3Bnu0mrj
Once the plastic nuts are removed you can just pull the outer tail light away from the body, then install the new R32 outer tail light in the reverse order.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585778nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B738nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58577%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585775nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585779nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B744nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C58%3B747nu0mrj
The wiring modification for the left outer tail light is exactly the same as the right side outer tail light. Just focus on the terminal designations in the connector housings.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D3233634%3B%3B%3A%3B%3B3nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D3233634%3B%3C75%3B4nu0mrj
GTI2007
05-02-2006, 11:27 PM
That's the first CW GTI I see with R32 lights. Looks awesome :w00t:
DBCPerformance
05-02-2006, 11:49 PM
x2:w00t:
bigdyno
05-03-2006, 12:39 AM
forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the stock lights and the R32 lights? They look pretty much the same as the ones on my car.
Faerus
05-03-2006, 12:58 AM
forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the stock lights and the R32 lights? They look pretty much the same as the ones on my car.
They are much darker and I believe it has an amber turn signal in the middle instead of the side of the red blinking.
Supratgti
05-03-2006, 12:59 AM
hate to say it but i have to agree with bigdyno.. if u wanted dark tail lights. should of just saved yourself the time and just get darked out mkv tail lights.
http://www.parts4euro.com/cgi-bin/PPStore/ppstore.cgi?database=Products&action=view_product&productID=20065&category=8
a simple plug and play and looks exactly like the pic above
anyways i give you credit for the work if that helps
GTiMkVtyler
05-03-2006, 01:29 AM
To me... that's a complete waste of money that could go towards better parts that actually make a difference. :rolleyes:
GTI2007
05-03-2006, 09:31 AM
forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the stock lights and the R32 lights? They look pretty much the same as the ones on my car.
Here are pics to show it to you. First one are the R32 taillights. Second one are the regular GTI taillights.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D3233634%3B%3C75%3B4nu0mrj
bigdyno
05-03-2006, 11:27 AM
Thanks, now I see the difference
Rabbit GTI
05-03-2006, 11:50 AM
forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between the stock lights and the R32 lights? They look pretty much the same as the ones on my car.
as i think someone else already said...they are darker, and you get the yellow left/right turn signal lights in the center
ABT_V_GTI
05-03-2006, 01:21 PM
nice... makes my wanna get one for my CW GTI
MKVboi
06-13-2006, 05:59 PM
Do I need to get her Vag-Com'ed even it's without the rear fogs?
ACgolf
06-14-2006, 03:35 AM
Do I need to get her Vag-Com'ed even it's without the rear fogs?
You have two options:
1. You can install the tail lamps and then swap the red rear fog lens with the us white lens so you get two reverse lights. After you just install them you can simply just plug and play. But this will not allow you to have the amber signaling. Your light configuration will just simply be the NA-spec configuration (as in the half circle red signaling). So this option only allow you to have the smoke tail light looks but still with NA-spec light config.
2. You can install the tail lamps and then follow the DIY thread on the rewiring and then vagcom it with the long code provided. Then you will get the looks and the Euro-spec light configuration. And YES, you will need vagcom to get this to work properly. If you just rewired it and leave it, the lights will not function properly. It will be all messed up; ie, when you brake your brake lights come on but so does the turn signals on both side. I had this problem myself before I vagcom-ed it.
Hope this helps! :thumbsup:
Edit: If you just simply follow the DIY on this thread you will not get rear fog. You need to refer to another DIY thread regarding rear fog setup.
MKVboi
06-14-2006, 12:44 PM
Koo buddy! Thnx so much. I prefer the half circle signal lamps. But what does the Euro setup look like? Are they amber instead of red?
Vivid
06-14-2006, 12:51 PM
looks good, not sure if I would spend that much on it, but it does look very good
ApexTwin
06-14-2006, 01:37 PM
They look great JJ, I love it! :thumbsup:
Big difference to the standard lights - I didn't realise there were so many blind people out there. :cool:
Ironhorz
06-14-2006, 04:09 PM
The more I see those tails the more I'm liking them. :thumbup:
ACgolf
06-14-2006, 10:03 PM
some pics of my tail here...
you can see the amber signal is not in the middle :)
http://members.shaw.ca/alanchan1129/MKV/r08.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/alanchan1129/MKV/r09.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/alanchan1129/MKV/r10.jpg
quailallstar
07-15-2006, 10:59 AM
That reed looks HOT with the R32's.................
Question for you:
When you press the break, do the outer half circles only light up on the tail lamps? In Europe they do, so Im curious if this mod enables that to happen.
quailallstar
07-16-2006, 12:00 AM
I got a set on ebay.de just now.. So Im going to install these asap once they arrive. =)
I want to know something..
In bite 13, you set the BIT to 00 and check the box? Thats where I am confused.
BlackRabbit
07-18-2006, 02:21 PM
why do people worry so much about their tail lights?.. i'd rather get a bigger turbo if i had a gti.. in my case i just got a garrett turbo for my rabbit.. that 2.5 five is gonna smoke the gti by at least 30 horses
Ironhorz
07-18-2006, 06:05 PM
why do people worry so much about their tail lights?.. i'd rather get a bigger turbo if i had a gti.. in my case i just got a garrett turbo for my rabbit.. that 2.5 five is gonna smoke the gti by at least 30 horses
Some are happy with the engine's performance off the showroom floor so we're looking to upgrade other things first.
Good luck on your project and post up some pictures and details when you get it done. :thumbsup:
ACgolf
07-19-2006, 12:18 AM
That reed looks HOT with the R32's.................
Question for you:
When you press the break, do the outer half circles only light up on the tail lamps? In Europe they do, so Im curious if this mod enables that to happen.
No, when i press the brake, the full circle lights up like the NA version. I thought this mod would do the trick too. But then it didn't... I am waiting for someone to come up with a new code so this could be done. I am sure if we play with the codes a bit this can be done.
Plyngntrffc
07-23-2006, 07:06 PM
Hah...pathetic...Seriously...if u were going to turbocharge your rabbit, y didnt you just buy a GTI...your going to close the price difference between the two almost to nothing, if not having your car cost more...and being slower b/c we can add a chip and jump up quite a few horses...and doing the Tails cost 239.99 from tmtuning...a turbo kit for your car will run you @ least 2 grand when they come out with one...and whoever said saving money buying the darked out tails...those are $70 more than the R32 tails...so not sure how u could save yourself some money buying those...
GTI2007
07-23-2006, 07:12 PM
No, when i press the brake, the full circle lights up like the NA version. I thought this mod would do the trick too. But then it didn't... I am waiting for someone to come up with a new code so this could be done. I am sure if we play with the codes a bit this can be done.
I like the full circle when braking you guys get much better then the outer half circle we get here in Europe. I'm most likely am going to change that from the outer half circle to the full circle.
youre1096
08-15-2006, 02:33 PM
Is this the same mod I would need to do to get the amber LED's functional on the Hella LED's???
Mary and Phil
09-14-2006, 04:57 PM
Reprinted with 4string's permission:
Finally finished getting my R32 tail lights working in my 2006 GTI. Very easy to install the light assemblies in the body and the hatch. Since I am not using a rear fog light I removed the left inner lens light socket assembly from the R32 tail light which is held in by 3 screws and removed the red lens from the R32 left inner tail light and and exchanged it with the clear lens from the old GTI tail light. The red lens just snaps out and just snap in the clear one. The most tedious task is rewiring the outer light assembly's multiplug connectors. In order to get the tail lights functioning properly you need either a VAG 5052/5051 or a VAG-COM to alter the Long Coding of the Central Electrics Controller. I will display the Long Coding I used by it may differ from the coding for individual cars. I am using the front foglights as my DRLs instead of the HID bulbs as the DRLs. Below is the coding I am using. Make sure you record your original Long Coding before attempting to make any changes to the Central Electrics Controller.Here is the Long Coding I'm using:
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
You will need 2 wire terminals to insert into the multiplug terminal housings for the outboard rear light assemblies. The terminals you can get at the VW dealer and the terminals will have a short piece of wire crimped onto them that you can splice onto the original harness.
The part number for the wiring terminal is:
000 979 141
What is important is the wiring colors for the right and left side of the car are different. As long as you concentrate on which cavity in the multiplug connector that the correct designated wire is inserted into as shown in my photos you won't have any problems.
Here are the DIY steps to do this mod.........I hope it isn't too vague.
The inner tail lights are the easiest to do. Open the hatch and on each side of the hatch there are small trim panels that you can pry off to access the nuts and wiring connectors. Remove the connectors and the nuts, detach lens from hatch and reinstall R32 inner tail lights in the reverse order. Fairly straightforward procedure.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D3233634%3B%3B868%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp346%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D3233634%3B%3B8694nu0mrj
Now for the real work.................
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C58%3B74%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C597%3C64nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B74%3Bnu0mrj
Once the plastic nuts are removed you can just pull the outer tail light away from the body, then install the new R32 outer tail light in the reverse order.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585778nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B738nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58577%3Cnu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585775nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp345%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C585779nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B744nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D323362%3C58%3B747nu0mrj
The wiring modification for the left outer tail light is exactly the same as the right side outer tail light. Just focus on the terminal designations in the connector housings.
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWSNR CG%3D3233634%3B%3B%3A%3B%3B3nu0mrj
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D3233634%3B%3C75%3B4nu0mrj
are the turn sigs red or ambre? where can you buy these?
SoCalComatose
12-06-2006, 01:40 PM
Read the thread, and don't quote all the damn pics, yeesh. :rolleyes:
s0dhi
12-06-2006, 06:58 PM
I like the full circle when braking you guys get much better then the outer half circle we get here in Europe. I'm most likely am going to change that from the outer half circle to the full circle.
I would have to agree. I think the full circle brake light is better from a safety perspective. I also prefer the amber rear signal as well, also for safety and visibility reasons.
For those knocking on the R32 light swap vs. a turbo. This mod, IMHO, can improve performance from a visibility and safety perspective.
Personally, lighting, suspension and brake mods are on my list in that particular order. Power can come after those areas are addressed, and often the need for power vanishes when you can see, corner and stop well.
bennylenny88
12-06-2006, 07:35 PM
nice... makes my wanna get one for my CW GTI
is that a CF hood???
Jax$MkV
12-06-2006, 08:58 PM
Read the thread, and don't quote all the damn pics, yeesh. :rolleyes:
x fucking 2!
deutchLand
02-22-2007, 12:16 PM
confused... what happen if i just wire it the same way it came stock. Would i need the vag?
918hare
02-22-2007, 02:47 PM
confused... what happen if i just wire it the same way it came stock. Would i need the vag?
They will work just like what oyu have now. You will not have amber turn signals. They only benefit will be the daker red
Jax$MkV
02-22-2007, 07:40 PM
nice tits, i mean... pic (avatar) :rolleyes:
ABT_V_GTI
02-23-2007, 02:22 AM
is that a CF hood???
yes... it is!
deutchLand
02-23-2007, 02:35 AM
They will work just like what you have now. You will not have amber turn signals. They only benefit will be the daker red
So how do I get the amber part to blink instead of the half circle? Than is that when I need to have vag. Where do I go if i dont have vag.
Sorry Im just trying to understand.
deegers82
03-02-2007, 02:59 PM
I am also looking to get full circle brake lights with amber blinkers. I know I need to use Vag-Com to alter the Centeral Electronics Controller... Can I just use the long coding helper to check or uncheck some boxes? Or do I need to change the long code itself?
Is it as easy as switching BYTES 09 through 13 to: 0A 00 00 0F 00?
I know the whole wireing game to...
Sorry I'm new to Vag-Com... Thanks!
zither99
03-17-2007, 10:51 PM
OK I installed my r32 tails today, instead of splicing wires I soldered inside the tail lights (on both sides), here are the pics of just one side:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder1.JPG http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder2.JPG http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder3.JPG
this just leaves you with switching the wires as mentioned before from cavity 2 to 1 (3 to 4 on the other side for me), and then just programming in vag-com byte '13' and change the binary string to '00000000', basically un-checking every bit.
No splicing and no wire from the dealer required this way.
ApexTwin
03-20-2007, 05:37 AM
I just installed my R32 tails today. Pretty easy, just a couple of nuts that were a pain in the ass to get to.
After I did the right side I took a photo so you can get a direct comparison between the two...
http://xs113.xs.to/xs113/07120/GTIvR32Tails.jpg
zither99
03-20-2007, 01:09 PM
r32 tails kick ass, at first i wasn't sure about them, but now everytime i walk away/towards the car i think it just looks damn sexy, just really mean or something...
dorongi
04-25-2007, 02:42 PM
here it is:headbang:
Upper left picture is for the comparison btwn stock & R32
applen
05-04-2007, 02:49 PM
noob question: i haven't taken my rear tails apart but isn't there an amber light in the stock rear housing? and if so does it have a bulb? i like the r32 tails but i'm more interested in reprograming to utilize the full red circle for braking and amber for turn-signals... is this possible without hardware modification or do i need r32 (or something similar)?
i think it's strange how VW chose what lights to use where (and for what)? like the inner front headlights are only for flashing people to pass? and here, unused (i think) rear amber turns... wtf?
[immature humor]
call me immature but i kept laughing reading this thread everytime someone said "vag" here's my favorite:
Than is that when I need to have vag. Where do I go if i dont have vag.
:laugh:
that being said, i hear you, i would also like to become a vag master (in more ways than one).
[/immature humor]
odascoo
05-06-2007, 04:12 AM
so everything is smoked in the light except the circles right???? dude another guy like taped his stuff off and like did a whole bunch of stuff....but looks like took too long what is best option?
bennylenny88
05-06-2007, 07:55 AM
i taped it up too.. took about 30 mins to complete and wasnt hard at all
CV_Soccer
07-23-2007, 11:57 PM
The R32 tails look nice but what about the LED tails like this one ???
http://oempl.us/popup_image.php?pID=371&osCsid=1c8c0ddea81591bb9933a90570252c59
GTI2007
07-25-2007, 10:12 PM
The R32 tails look nice but what about the LED tails like this one ???
http://oempl.us/popup_image.php?pID=371&osCsid=1c8c0ddea81591bb9933a90570252c59
Those LED tails look very nice but the circles are too white IMO
Mango
07-26-2007, 12:06 AM
The only way I can see this even being remotely worth it...is to just go for the LED tails. Far superior in lighting quality and being distinct.
:)
But, thanks for the DIY! Definitely helpful.
crabpot
12-12-2007, 07:08 PM
http://images.snapfish.com/346743745%7Ffp33%3B%3Enu%3D3239%3E6%3A4%3E846%3EWS NRCG%3D323362%3C58%3B744nu0mrj
Sorry to bump up an old post, but I have a question about the portion of this DIY where the new trigger wire is spliced to the cut wire. The trigger wire has a plug at the end and the other wire is exposed, how do you splice these two wires together?
Any help is appreciated, TIA.
crabpot
12-13-2007, 11:46 AM
Bump for an answer to my question.
crabpot
12-14-2007, 02:14 AM
bump ... anyone???
dpham00
12-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Sorry to bump up an old post, but I have a question about the portion of this DIY where the new trigger wire is spliced to the cut wire. The trigger wire has a plug at the end and the other wire is exposed, how do you splice these two wires together?
Any help is appreciated, TIA.
there are in-line wire taps.
or, you can strip part of the wire you want to tap, and solder it in place.
Raven6t9
12-21-2007, 05:53 PM
I cant find pics of any US spec R32 tails in action, I want to see those LED's and rear fogs work! Anyone got any pics???
Rabbit GTI
12-21-2007, 05:57 PM
us-spec R32 tails don't have a rear fog.
Raven6t9
12-22-2007, 06:38 PM
oh o.k., so they just have the regular dual white reverse lenses then right?
HipToss
02-29-2008, 10:07 AM
What gauge wire should the jumper be? Is 12 - 14 okay?
on.your.left
08-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Installed my new R32 tinted tails. Very easy. I followed these instructions and everything went perfectly!
Since I don't have VAGCOM, it was pretty much plug-n-play. But, I removed the red fog insert from the R32 tail and used the clear/white one from the OE tail. Removing these plastic inserts was the hardest part of the install. Once I get access to VAGCOM, I'll re-insert the red fog and activate the rear fog and amber turn signals (right-now, the turn signals are the same as the stock GTI).
Before:
http://www.pbase.com/onespeed/image/97571734/medium.jpg
During:
http://www.pbase.com/onespeed/image/101829352/medium.jpg
After:
http://www.pbase.com/onespeed/image/101829819/medium.jpg
More pics here: http://www.pbase.com/onespeed/gti_20080818
youngkal
02-21-2009, 05:36 PM
so what exactly needs to be done in vagcom?
plexuz
03-10-2009, 09:36 AM
can someone tell me where you find the white lenses or R32 tail's with 4 white lenses...
greetz
Rabbid0281
05-02-2009, 10:57 AM
You do NOT need to remove the pink terminal locker completely as in doing so will break it.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/reartailplug00.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/reartailplug01.jpg
also you dont need to splice any wires going to these plugs. here's a simple solution:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/P1130020.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/reartailboard00.jpg
Rabbid0281
05-02-2009, 11:03 AM
so what exactly needs to be done in vagcom?
all you really need to do is go in and turn off the double duty where it says something about brake lights double as blinkers, and then make sure its on 1 or 2 rear drive lights, which are the reverse lights, cuz mine came with a red lense for one of the fogs, so i swapped it out, very carefully with the clear lense from my stock lights.
Xanatos
05-17-2009, 03:22 AM
You do NOT need to remove the pink terminal locker completely as in doing so will break it.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/reartailboard00.jpg
i see you did the solder job. When I did it, I noticed that the bulb for the amber turns stays dimly lit. I have not vagged anything but the rear fog. But is there a reason why this bulb is on when the rest of the tail is on? Will vagging byte 13 to 0000000 fix this issue??
JetTurbo
05-17-2009, 07:55 AM
i see you did the solder job. When I did it, I noticed that the bulb for the amber turns stays dimly lit. I have not vagged anything but the rear fog. But is there a reason why this bulb is on when the rest of the tail is on? Will vagging byte 13 to 0000000 fix this issue??
Correct me if I am wrong -
US OE configuration, both the brake half circle and the turn signal half circle run at a dimmer level to provide full circle running lights. Assuming that is correct - the amber turn would glow at running light level anytime the light switch is on -- until you correct the setting in the Vehicle Electrical System Controller J519 (aka Central Electrical Controller or CEC).
Yes -- CEC Byte 13 is probably the place.
If it is not set to Dec: 0, that is the reason - change it to Dec: 0
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte13.png
Britishav8tor
05-20-2009, 05:04 PM
Can someone tell me what guage wire (AWG) was used as a jumper ?
The Vag Com stuff seem confusing, can someone put up more screen shots. I know there is a VAG COM thread, but its not specific to rear lights.
JetTurbo
05-20-2009, 07:47 PM
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The Vag Com stuff seem confusing, can someone put up more screen shots. I know there is a VAG COM thread, but its not specific to rear lights.
I have a library of VAG-COM screen shots to reference,
please keep in mind, the captured settings are for
LED tails with four discrete wires to the CEC
and rewired for left rear fog functional,
so the screenshot settings are not the ones you should use.
Just the same, the descriptions will help you understand what is going on
and I will translate the coding posted for the r32 lights ...
Reprinted with 4string's permission:
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Here is the Long Coding I'm using:
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
...
All screenshots below are grabbed from the
long coding helper of the Vehicle Electrical System Controller J519
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
bits 1 & 2 relate to rear fog - set to 06 by OP which would in fact be
bits 1 and 2 on and all other in this byte off.
However, byte 4 bit 6 ON overrides these rear fog settings.
so you are best off not changing anything here, I am showing it for reference.
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte3.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
bits 4 & 6 relate to rear fog - set to 40 by OP which woud be bit 6 on only
disabling rear fog
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte4.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
set to 20% (hex 14) by OP
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte9.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
set to off (hex 00) by OP
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte12.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
set to off (hex 00) by OP
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte13.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
set to 77 by OP which would be bits 0, 1, 2, 4, 5, and 6 ON, others off
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte18.png
07 8F 8F 06 40 04 18 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 77 0B 5C 00 00
set to 0B by OP which would be bits 0, 1, 3 ON, others off
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte19.png
Hope that helps and doesn't confuse to much.:wink:
RaulRDI
06-17-2009, 12:47 PM
Can you say if i can do this on a regular golf 5 not GTI? Thanx
RaulRDI
06-17-2009, 04:50 PM
please explain to me becuse i don't understand how changing the wire from number 2 moving it to number 1 would darken my tail light, i just can't understand, give some kind of explination
the other part that is explained by wiring togheter the number 2 wire to the number 3 wire it's perfectly rezonable beacuase i did it, but the rest i don't know..
i want an answer please
RaulRDI
06-17-2009, 05:38 PM
please explain to me how changing 2 wires from the number 2 wire to the number 1 wire is going to make my glass darker..are you f'serious with this diy?
Rabbid0281
07-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Correct me if I am wrong -
US OE configuration, both the brake half circle and the turn signal half circle run at a dimmer level to provide full circle running lights. Assuming that is correct - the amber turn would glow at running light level anytime the light switch is on -- until you correct the setting in the Vehicle Electrical System Controller J519 (aka Central Electrical Controller or CEC).
Yes -- CEC Byte 13 is probably the place.
If it is not set to Dec: 0, that is the reason - change it to Dec: 0
http://dataton.net/vw/VAGscreenshot/CentElec-byte13.png
Yeah US setup is that the outer half is blinker and brake, double duty. the inner half is brake/running light. I have mine dimmed even more than stock to give a more subdued running look. it doesnt affect the intensity when brakes are applied. You have to go in and recode like Jet said. In addition to the recode, moving the one wire activates the middle bulb in the R32 tails. when you recode, it tells the CEC that you have separate circuits for blinker and brake lights.
i believe the wire gauge 14 or 16. its small, and i wasted money buying the jumper wire by part number. you could easily get a length of wire say 14AWG 8" long, cut in half; solder, and it will suffice.
RAUL - I have a Rabbit. moving the wire does what i stated above. it doesnt darken yur tails. no one said anything about that. i have the Euro spec Hella R32s, with out the little LED in the corner.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/wolfsburg24/Amelie%20and%20Friends/P3210163b.jpg
alvinaudi
11-04-2009, 10:38 AM
OK I installed my r32 tails today, instead of splicing wires I soldered inside the tail lights (on both sides), here are the pics of just one side:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder1.JPG http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder2.JPG http://www.telusplanet.net/public/zither99/vortex/r32solder3.JPG
this just leaves you with switching the wires as mentioned before from cavity 2 to 1 (3 to 4 on the other side for me), and then just programming in vag-com byte '13' and change the binary string to '00000000', basically un-checking every bit.
No splicing and no wire from the dealer required this way.
I did the exact mod to my Gti tail light to make the whole circle light up when I brake. BUT at the same time when I turn on the light and press the brake pedal, the yellow "light blub" sign light up on my dash and saying the left and right rear light bulb are not working?! DO the vagcom job solve this or what...Thanks for any input...
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