View Full Version : Dealer Oil Change cost?
davesee
04-21-2006, 11:35 AM
Was wondering what everyone paid for their first oil change - if taken to a dealer..
I have ALWAYS changed changed my own oil in the past, but for some reason I think I want to take my gti to my dealer to have all maintenance issues taken care of.
I've searched through all the "Oil Change" threads on here and didnt find an answer to this question.
I will call the dealer today, but I wanted to get an idea first from everyone on here.
Thanks guys!
Freek
04-21-2006, 11:55 AM
from what i hear its between 30-40$ for a dealer oil change....sometimes u can find coupons on your dealers website under service specials...check it out
davesee
04-21-2006, 11:57 AM
alright, thanks - ill do that :w00t:
excal06
04-21-2006, 12:01 PM
I still can't get over the fact that the first oil change is at 5000 miles
davesee
04-21-2006, 12:04 PM
haha, yeah.. i cant believe i already have near 5k on my baby!
Freek
04-21-2006, 12:30 PM
why is the 5k oil change so hard to believe?
my 00 Si went every 5k and my mothers 05 Murano goes 5k for oil changes
as cars get newer the longer things last...when i was looking at the MINI before buying my GTI the MINI sales person told me that the MINI gets its first change at 5k and then another at 10k and then after the 10k change it gets oils changes every 10,000 miles
excal06
04-21-2006, 12:46 PM
well, maybe I'm just used to change my oil every 3000 miles with my old car.
Sinjin
04-21-2006, 01:36 PM
Its is all a scam. The oil companies want you to change your oil every 3k because it increased sales. then the car companies extended the recommended interval to 5k to make money.ie your car craps out sooner :laugh:
davesee
04-21-2006, 01:55 PM
haha, how did i know this would turn into a oil change interval discussion :cool:
Rabbit GTI
04-21-2006, 02:11 PM
Its is all a scam. The oil companies want you to change your oil every 3k because it increased sales. then the car companies extended the recommended interval to 5k to make money.ie your car craps out sooner :laugh:
yup yup...all of the new cars's owners manuals that i look through say 7500 and 10000 miles between each oil change. i do mine every 6 or 7, so that way i remember to rotate my tires as well at the same time.
big papa
04-21-2006, 10:04 PM
I think your gonna find out the GTI costs more than usual for a oil change. Call'em and ask. $30-$40 maybe just for the oil.
Freek
04-21-2006, 10:12 PM
I think your gonna find out the GTI costs more than usual for a oil change. Call'em and ask. $30-$40 maybe just for the oil.
well if that is the case...then im getting a deal...a salesman at the dealer i bought my car from told me an oil change for my car will run me about 33$....i guess in 3,000 miles we will find out how much it really will cost me
kirk180
04-21-2006, 10:22 PM
I'm changing the oil in mine at about 2k miles (which is any day). Since it's pretty much broke in I wanna get all that metal flake out of there that may be in there from the initial wear and tear. Then I'll do the 5k intervals or longer.
Call.me.Junior
04-21-2006, 11:19 PM
A friend of mine told me that if you are going to change the oil yourself that his Audi dealer friend said to make sure you use a VW filter. something about the filter that you need or is highly recommended. i call recall what the reason was, nor do i kjnow if it's true. might be something you want to look into if you plan on doing your own oil changes. then again, he may have just been pushing him to buy audi/vw specific parts.
tydale3
04-22-2006, 12:52 AM
You must use an oil that is VW approved to not void your warrnaty. Has to be full synthetic. My dealer uses castrol 5w-40 syntec And VW filters. Its 40 buck for a regular oil change, full synthetic adds 25 , Acually thats what they quoted me for the first service, not just the oil change. But thats mostly all they do on the First service. Not all cars have scheduled changes at 7500 miles. For one thing the MKV has a turbo. Most turbo cars reccomend sooner oil changes than non-turbos. Also for alot of traffic driving or stop and go, they call this rough service, The intervals are cut in half. Personnally I do mine between 3500 and 5000. The harder you drive your car the more unburned fuel ends up in your crankcase, thats what breaks down the oil. That and Heat.
bigdyno
04-23-2006, 07:44 PM
the dealers here in Toronto want $90 plus tax, which puts it at bout $105. Just the oil cost me 45 and another 22 for the filter.(oem)
Rabbit GTI
04-23-2006, 07:52 PM
the dealers here in Toronto want $90 plus tax, which puts it at bout $105. Just the oil cost me 45 and another 22 for the filter.(oem)
screw dealerships...find a local guy you can trust, as long as you have all your documentation, vw can't void your warranty.
bigdyno
04-24-2006, 06:53 PM
I am a licenced motorcycle mechanic, so I can't fathom paying someone else to do an oil change. I just need to find a line on the oil and I will be laughing. Well, snickering anyway.
Wild Hare
04-24-2006, 07:02 PM
I still can't get over the fact that the first oil change is at 5000 miles
Why, that's pretty normal these days.
juliantrost
04-24-2006, 10:23 PM
I was told that if I do not use the dealership's mechanic to change the oil, they will void my warranty. Is this true? I had an Acura 3.2 and Murano before, both purchased brand new and no problems if using a local shop to change oil. What's up with VW and voiding warranty. This has to be a scam to force me use their service. What do you guys think?
bigdyno
04-24-2006, 10:51 PM
As I understand it, you must use one of the oils they approve and have some way of documenting the work done on your car. If you have something done under warranty, it can only be done at a dealer, however normal maintenance does not. I do all the service on my girlfriends motorcycle and when it went in under warranty for a broken camchain she was told by the service manager that he would like to see it "every now and then". He still won't see it, especially now that it is out of warranty. Just be very sure to document your service and mileage.
Again, here is a link to the VWoA website with the approved oils. MAKE SURE YOU USE THEM or all hell will break loose if you try to make a warranty claim.
Rabbit GTI
04-24-2006, 11:00 PM
I was told that if I do not use the dealership's mechanic to change the oil, they will void my warranty. Is this true? I had an Acura 3.2 and Murano before, both purchased brand new and no problems if using a local shop to change oil. What's up with VW and voiding warranty. This has to be a scam to force me use their service. What do you guys think?
that is the biggest load of BS...i already said this in the thread, as long as you document everything, you should be able to do it yourself or have a local guy you trust do it. if vw wants to play like that, well thats just f'ed up.
trick000
04-24-2006, 11:15 PM
As I understand it, you must use one of the oils they approve and have some way of documenting the work done on your car. If you have something done under warranty, it can only be done at a dealer, however normal maintenance does not. I do all the service on my girlfriends motorcycle and when it went in under warranty for a broken camchain she was told by the service manager that he would like to see it "every now and then". He still won't see it, especially now that it is out of warranty. Just be very sure to document your service and mileage.
Again, here is a link to the VWoA website with the approved oils. MAKE SURE YOU USE THEM or all hell will break loose if you try to make a warranty claim.
I'm actually planning on doing the oil changes myself. Any tips on what kinda documentation the dealers would accept?
Rabbit GTI
04-25-2006, 09:17 AM
I'm actually planning on doing the oil changes myself. Any tips on what kinda documentation the dealers would accept?
i would probably want to talk to the dealer about that or call VWoA...just make sure you take down every date, the exact mileage, the type of oil you used, and the filter you used. I dont think there is anything else you could do other than that. May be good to type it all up on a word document as well, so it is nice and clean, and to show the dealer that you are serious about it.
bigdyno
04-25-2006, 05:25 PM
i would probably want to talk to the dealer about that or call VWoA...just make sure you take down every date, the exact mileage, the type of oil you used, and the filter you used. I dont think there is anything else you could do other than that. May be good to type it all up on a word document as well, so it is nice and clean, and to show the dealer that you are serious about it.
This sounds like great advice. I am keeping the sales receipts for the oil and filters and only buying OEM filters. I am using the provided space in the manual for the date I do it. As suggested above, check with VWoA to see where they stand. I am a licenced mechanic, so that gives me (on paper anyway) a little more credibility as far as doing it myself. I still intend to let them do the major maintenence (rotate tires, change colant/brake fluid etc) as I don't have the facillities to do that kind of stuff right now.
Rabbit GTI
04-25-2006, 05:47 PM
This sounds like great advice. I am keeping the sales receipts for the oil and filters and only buying OEM filters. I am using the provided space in the manual for the date I do it. As suggested above, check with VWoA to see where they stand. I am a licenced mechanic, so that gives me (on paper anyway) a little more credibility as far as doing it myself. I still intend to let them do the major maintenence (rotate tires, change colant/brake fluid etc) as I don't have the facillities to do that kind of stuff right now.
oh yea, if you are certified...vw aint got s**t on you :thumbsup:
davesee
04-26-2006, 10:18 AM
In case anyone here is actually interested in the COST of the oil change at a dealership, my dealer says the 5000k maintenance runs $69.95.
Anyone get charged something else?
may be 1 out of 100 car owners will keep the car till it dies.
what's the difference to do the oil change in 5k or 3k miles.
If our cars last 4ever, who's going to buy new cars, the car companies they all have 1 common interest that try to make you buy new cars.
I agree with Sinjin's comment, it's kind of a scam if that's the only word to describe.
I will keep my GTI about 2 to 3 years then may switch to R32 or R36, so I just follow the 5k intevals.
bilbos
04-26-2006, 11:21 AM
I have got my first oil change for free from the dealer. A few more miles until I get to 5K though.
davesee
04-26-2006, 11:26 AM
I have got my first oil change for free from the dealer. A few more miles until I get to 5K though.
how'd you get so lucky?
bilbos
04-26-2006, 12:31 PM
how'd you get so lucky?
When I bought the car, the sales guy said "there is a voucher in your welcome pack for a free first oil change". I thought great :biggrin:
Wantagti
04-26-2006, 05:37 PM
They told me receipts weren't enough because they prove nothing, which is true. They would prefer a repair order with your vin number and mileage along with the oil and filter charged on it. As long as you are using approved oil and a brand name filter, you will be fine. You don't know how many times I've seen engine failure and 95% of them were due to owner neglect. They always would tell me I'll find the receipts, just give me some time. VW is trying to protect themselves from this very thing. I've had quite a few customers lately that have gone 7-10,000 miles before doing their first oil change. I hear every excuse in the book.
big papa
04-26-2006, 07:14 PM
I just called my stealership and they quoted $83 for 5k service.
bondstreet
04-26-2006, 08:59 PM
Just had my oil changed today at a dealer Donaldsons in Sayville NY. It cost $66.00 and they use synthetic oil.
outsider
07-24-2006, 04:11 PM
In case anyone here is actually interested in the COST of the oil change at a dealership, my dealer says the 5000k maintenance runs $69.95.
Anyone get charged something else?
I sure am.
I find that VW dealers charge redicolously for an oil change. Values for my area are $59.95 (the cheapest at a dealer who told me I could only change my oil AT the dealer... I had a laugh at that one) to $80.
Most of the dealers I called would not let you bring your own oil or would charge you a higher labor rate if you did bring you oil. Rip off.
I was not satisfied w/ the treatment as a customer w/ the prices and way they handle something as simple as an oil change. I cringe to think how much the dealer may charge if something major actually had to be done.
marx92x
07-24-2006, 04:15 PM
I had mine done a few weeks ago at Larry Miller Volkswagen in Avondale AZ (west side of Phoenix) and it was $65 OTD.
errorini
07-24-2006, 04:26 PM
Make sure to use the proprietary filter. Someone on vortex broke something and his car wouldn't stop leaking oil.
I pay an extra $10 every month with my car payments, and when I go in they'll do my oil change and tire rotation without any money right there. I'll probably end up paying more this way, but it feels easier on the wallet and it's less that my World of Warcraft bill. :D
slubenow
07-26-2006, 12:30 AM
Anyone know if the oil change cost is higher for the GTI then the rabbit? I also understand that the DSG oil change at 20K Mi is $300.00. Any requirement to change the fluid in the standard tranny or the rabbit auto at the same frequency?
Parrothead
08-09-2006, 11:15 PM
74.48 OTD after tax for my 5k.
Freek
08-09-2006, 11:20 PM
74.48 OTD after tax for my 5k.
yo Parrot what dealer was that at?
i gotta get my oil changed before i move back to florida...so i was gonna start calling dealers next week to see how much they are gonna charge?
did u call around to other dealers?
thomaschh
08-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Mine was $59.95 - just got it done today, and they use full synthetic and even detail the car for you.
Someone posted this same topic a while back and I still don't get it. Look at the costs and actually think about it - $60 is a decent deal! Hell, even $75 isn't that bad. You're getting an OEM filter (gotta be at least $20 retail), full synthetic oil (last time I checked upwards of $50/case) and you don't have to spend the hour to get under the car and do it yourself. IMO you break even bringing it to the dealer. Unless they're charging more than $80...
And you also get a guarantee they won't hassle you over a warranty issue later on.
Tom
after looking at the price to change my oil, im just going to buy the tool and do it this weekend, eff all taht other nonsense.
Beserkr
08-30-2006, 02:31 AM
I contacted my local stealership today and the guy at the service department quoted me $89 + tax only for an oil change. I was like :eyebulge: then started laughing and hung up. I've been trying to call other dealers around my area. Any one in Miami know of a good one?
962dreamer
09-14-2006, 09:14 PM
Well, my first service was in the $60 range. They claim they did other 'checks' and such and in CA we pay a stiff 'pollution' charge.
My last car was a '91 Camry which is still running strong at 220k (my son owns it now) and I never bothered to change the oil beyond what Toyota recommended ~ 5K - 7.5K.
Our cars are better engineered, better machined and better sealed. Take the factory recommendation and save a few dollars along the way.
Hope this helps -
k0rson
09-16-2006, 03:34 AM
if the dealer says using synthetic oils that are not on the VW approved list, ask them to give that to you in writing - you'll see they wont do it. truth is that they cannot void your warranty if you use an oil that meets or exceeds the requirements. no company is legally allowed to force you to use only a certain brand of oil.
if you have problems and they try to void your warranty b/c you put in Amsoil let's say, ask if they did an oil analysis and the oil came out bad - and again ask them to give you proof in writing, and tell them 'i need that because my lawyer will have a field day with you guys on this'.
Re: AMSOIL, this is a Group IV synthetic, which is a notch superior to the Castrol Syntec - which by the way is NOT 100% synthetic, even if it says so on the label -Castrol is synthetic-BASED, meaning it has some mineral blends, and it is a Group III synthetic. so, you cannot go wrong with AMSOIL, being a superior oil. They have the European Formula 5W-40 designed to exceed VW and Audi and Mercedes and BMW specs.
And the service that the dealer provides is the BARELY MINIMUM, in no way take it as being a *good* care for your car. Like somebody said in this thread, your car will crap out faster, and you'll need to buy another car sooner. I talked with a BMW / Mercedes mechanic that just got back from some special training, where he was told that the "life span" of the car is 100,000 miles, and the dealer service is meant to have the car live for only 100,000 miles. now, we all know that if you take good care of your car, it will go much more than that. so, dealers are not our friends - they want to make money, and want you to come back and buy another car soon.
just my 2c
k0
fast greg
09-16-2006, 03:53 PM
my vw dealer gave me a free 5k and a 10k service.
good times.
speedydave
09-19-2006, 06:05 PM
just make sure you take down every date, the exact mileage, the type of oil you used, and the filter you used. I dont think there is anything else you could do other than that. May be good to type it all up on a word document as well, so it is nice and clean, and to show the dealer that you are serious about it.
I don't know how credible it is since he wasn't a service assistant, but the sales manager at the dealership I test drove at a few days ago said to pretty much do exactly this (or keep track of it in the provided space in the manual) and it should be fine, provided you do the work properly.
Wild Hare
09-19-2006, 06:22 PM
Then I'll do the 5k intervals or longer.
Honestly, you are throwing away hard earned money(5k). You could go the manufactures recommended interval with a synthetic that meets or exceeds their specs and have no problems - seriously.
If in doubt, do what I did at my first 12.5k drain I did... get a oil analysis kit and see for yourself.
With my modded 1.8t in my Audi I change my Amsoil every 12.5K or 6 months, whichever comes first (cause it's a modded Turbo car).
On my 6.0 in my Denali I go 25k or once a year.
Done the analysis on both and saw no degradation as apposed to my old 2-5k changes I used to do. The test says it all!
"Cars today run much cleaner than those of long ago that had little or no emission devices. Oil has come along way too (some are a lot better than others)!"
Wild Hare
09-19-2006, 06:28 PM
if the dealer says using synthetic oils that are not on the VW approved list, ask them to give that to you in writing - you'll see they wont do it. truth is that they cannot void your warranty if you use an oil that meets or exceeds the requirements. no company is legally allowed to force you to use only a certain brand of oil.
if you have problems and they try to void your warranty b/c you put in Amsoil let's say, ask if they did an oil analysis and the oil came out bad - and again ask them to give you proof in writing, and tell them 'i need that because my lawyer will have a field day with you guys on this'.
Re: AMSOIL, this is a Group IV synthetic, which is a notch superior to the Castrol Syntec - which by the way is NOT 100% synthetic, even if it says so on the label -Castrol is synthetic-BASED, meaning it has some mineral blends, and it is a Group III synthetic. so, you cannot go wrong with AMSOIL, being a superior oil. They have the European Formula 5W-40 designed to exceed VW and Audi and Mercedes and BMW specs.
And the service that the dealer provides is the BARELY MINIMUM, in no way take it as being a *good* care for your car. Like somebody said in this thread, your car will crap out faster, and you'll need to buy another car sooner. I talked with a BMW / Mercedes mechanic that just got back from some special training, where he was told that the "life span" of the car is 100,000 miles, and the dealer service is meant to have the car live for only 100,000 miles. now, we all know that if you take good care of your car, it will go much more than that. so, dealers are not our friends - they want to make money, and want you to come back and buy another car soon.
just my 2c
k0
You are correct! The manufacture can recommend, yet not force you into using a specific oil on their list.
The Manguson-Moss Act protects us consumers from this very thing!
skunksweat
09-22-2006, 01:19 PM
keep your slips when you buy oil. or have the service dept. at vw stamp your book when you buy filters.. i buy oil and filter for 42$ tax included
they wont void shit. if they do ill stick my foot in the void of their ass
scarymonsterguy
09-22-2006, 01:46 PM
does anyone know how to shut the (service now light) off after you change it yourself?
skunksweat
09-22-2006, 01:49 PM
does anyone know how to shut the (service now light) off after you change it yourself?
its in the how to section you turn the ignition while holding in one of the dash Trip clear button...
AnaheimFast
05-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Its is all a scam. The oil companies want you to change your oil every 3k because it increased sales. then the car companies extended the recommended interval to 5k to make money.ie your car craps out sooner :laugh:
Wrong. The use of synthetic oils changes it all. The petroleum breaks down way faster than the synth. stuff. I have seen vehicles that have run 10,000-15,000 on the synthetic oil and it looks like you put 3,000 on it. Better technology in all areas.
tornadored
05-13-2007, 09:26 AM
I just paid $59 with a coupon for my first oil change. I will probably do my own the next time.
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